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I too found that this section of the article was interesting, but did not find it as striking as you and Brysen did. I think there is some truth to the claims of ignorance in certain leaders, but this is not an overarching attribute that all leaders have. I kind of think of this type of approach to a problem is similar to the way that children look at issues. Instead of harping on the negative aspect of ignorance, I think that it can be looked at as coming at a problem with a new perspective. When children look at a problem, they are sometimes capable of finding new solutions that experts were unable to fine because of their extensive engagement with the issue. I think that the ignorance of systems leaders can be seen in a good light.
Nice post Brysen. It seems to me that you bring up a notion similar to the technological path dependence that has been brought up at various times throughout the semester. I think that this is an interesting way of thinking about this weeks readings. Identifying the factors at play that lead to the "lock-in" of these technologies could be revealing of how larger systems fall into the similar "rigidity trap" that is mentioned in the readings. I would agree with you that it is important to approach these issues with a polycentric mindset to defeat the problem in multiple ways at the same time.
I agree that this subject of cyber resilience and security is both very interesting and scary. As the technologies of today are relatively new, there still seems to be many issues with them that have not been resolved. The PPD addresses the necessity for critical infrastructure resilience centers (one for cyber and one for physical) that will be in charge of monitoring these subjects. I think this is a good start, but what happens if something were to take this centers offline? I think that resiliency designed into the system would be a more effective way of preventing a disaster. I agree that our dependency on communication is perhaps a flaw within the system. You have clearly explained how bad things can be if communication goes offline. Although the best practices involve dependence on communication, do you think that it is worthwhile to spend time and resources on "outdated" systems to have them as back up plans?
I agree with your thoughts on the perspectives of culture and religion in today's society. Additionally, I think that it is important to consider the causes for these viewpoints as opposed to just looking at the product. I think that evaluating both cause and outcome are critical components to making a change in the system. A recurring theme throughout my comments and posts on various topics has been the overarching question of how to get such a large number of people to be on board with change. To no surprise, I find myself asking this question yet again. Is there an answer? Perhaps there is a way to cause a shift in the national value system. Could this happen through convincing individuals who have a strong media presence to change their ways and watch the dissemination occur? Can professional athletes be the sources for change?
You bring an interesting point up when you ask the question as to who the responsibility for making a change belongs to. Is it the consumer or is it the corporation? I feel that it is not solely the corporations responsibility, but they do have the most power in the situation. Ultimately, a balance between the parties is how I think the most impactful change will occur. Although, 100% commitment from either party would be a sufficient force to make the change. Your second point where you reiterate the 3 successful ways to implement change by Cofino and discuss the equality in stakeholders makes me think about the voice of the environment that often is unheard. I see the environment as a stakeholder that is unable to speak for itself. Although there are groups of people that try and speak on behalf of the environment, it still seems that the voice is not heard by all. What needs to happen to make sure that this voice IS heard? How can the power within the system shift to provide an equal share for the environment?
I agree with your analysis and synthesis of the readings. In my opinion, the issue at hand is rather dynamic and does not have a simple solution. I do feel that clearly defining the boundaries for the various groups and their contributions to the system is an essential step to diminishing the impacts on the global fish population. What seems to be an inherent issue with this objective is implementing a system of policing. The boundaries could be drawn up, but how will they be enforced on a global scale? Even with the boundaries being enforced on a global scale, how will the populations demand for fish be met? I agree that overcoming these issues requires cooperation and compromise.
I think that I shared similar thoughts to those that you have expressed in this post. I too was interested in the way that different networks support each other, and especially in the fact that sometimes this happens behind the scenes. I agree that these smaller systems are often integral components of these complex systems. It could be beneficial to create these smaller organizations of support in areas where they do not currently exist. As you mention, this could be effective in the political sphere. Although I agree with the importance of vulnerability assessments, I find this concept difficult to fully implement. Vulnerability assessments could be critical in reducing mishaps within complex systems, but I ultimately think that this type of assessment will never be able to prevent everything.
Katie, I think that this is an interesting perspective. I agree with what you have to say about the consequences of over simplifying complex matters. I like the examples that you included, but what I see differently is that I do think that simplifying complex matters is incredibly important as long as it is noted that the problem is getting simplified. As long as all parties involved in the problem solving are aware of the fact that there are additional complexities that may not currently be included in the solution, then it is okay. For example, the trouble comes when scientists are studying a forest ecosystem, jump to the conclusion that trees in lower succession are dying because they are not receiving enough sunlight. In reality, the main reason that the trees were dying because there was a large population of pine beetles killing the trees. Although the lack of sunlight was an issue for these trees, simplifying the situation to just this cause would have been inappropriate. Establishing these individual simple causations and understandings of complex problems is a critical part of problem solving. The key to this is to remember to include all the simplicities back into the complex frame and think about the big picture.
Interesting post and well written! I share similar thoughts to what you have expressed here. In my post, I touched on how my interest in environmentalism is above average and there are still many aspects of daily life that exceed healthy resource management that I overlook. Others that do not have any environmental interest (potentially like your grandfather) may have almost zero perspective of the existing environmental perils directly linked to the behavior the human population. In their defense, if it is not something that they are interested in it will be rather difficult to pay attention and retain information. I know that my information retention on subjects that I have little interest in is rather poor! One thing that nearly everyone is well aware of and very much concerned with is MONEY! Why not link the two together so that everyone can reasonably comprehend the damages and consequences that our actions will have on the planet? When thinking abstractly about this subject, it seems like this is an easy solution. Obviously, when trying to implement these ideals there are more difficulties.
Laura, I think that you have summed up portions of Meadows work quite nicely! I like the practical application of the systems thinking mindset that you have chosen to write about for this assignment. You have done a good job assessing a way that systems thinking has been beneficial in the past, and you have made it clear that systems thinking will probably be beneficial as our lives continue. Additionally, I like how you have tried to apply another aspect of systems thinking into a situation that you are interested in. I challenge you to try and anticipate other ways that utilizing a systems thinking frame of mind could be beneficial in both professional settings and beyond. Perhaps, do you think that systems thinking could benefit your personal relationships with others? Overall, I think your analysis of this reading is strong and you have sparked thoughts for me to consider as I am in a similar position to begin my capstone project. I think that it is important to look at problems through multiple lenses if possible and keeping the systems thinking lens readily available can be very helpful!
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