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I disagree. If you read the last sentence of Brockbank's comment, you'll see a clue. With larger tanks, a Class 8 fuel cell truck could conceivably run long haul routes.
Unfortunately, both DaveD and electric-car have misread my post. electric-car pooh-poohed a 150kW battery pack, stating "the notion that there is a viable market for cars that can quick-turn after 7 hours or more of driving is very far outside the realm of sound thinking." I simply pointed out that there are millions of vehicles with exactly that feature. However, I did not make any claims as to exactly how that fact plays into the conversation. electric car is correct in stating "the capability of an ICE to travel several hundred miles on a single tank of fuel that can quickly be refilled does not indicate a sizable market for people who want to drive more than 10 hours at a stretch." However, that is why I did not make that claim, which electric car failed to notice. DaveD assumed that I am "conflating the fact that vehicles have been required to improve their mileage so they are going longer distances with the same amount of fuel...with some market demand for driving 600+ miles without stopping." Actually, I wasn't saying that, either. Rather, I was saying as little as possible in the hope that a meaningful discussion on range and customer expectations might arise. For example, many modern cars can indeed do what electric-car says no one wants: drive for ten hours on a tank of fuel. And not counting the credit card transaction, that can take as little as a minute (I've timed it repeatedly). This is not, as DaveD says, a function of improved fuel economy, as OEMs could have reduced fuel tank size on such vehicles. So why do millions of cars have this feature? And how important is it? Can you provide any data? By the way, I am not anti-EV; indeed, I am in the business. I do, however, believe in looking at EVs with a critical eye so as to better understand and mitigate their weaknesses - something early adopters are not always willing to do.
"The notion that there is a viable market for cars that can quick-turn after 7 hours or more of driving is very far outside the realm of sound thinking." Actually, there is a very viable market for such vehicles. In fact, you've described many gasoline- and diesel-fueled cars. And the ranges keep getting longer: there are probably a dozen cars on sale now with ranges of more than 600 miles.
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