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"I think you are a troll, either that or hopelessly bigoted. pl" My mistake: I thought this was a discussion about actual events of the Civil War era. I have documentation to all the claims which trouble you - most from books/journals/newspapers of the period - but clearly those make the situation even worse. Now that I understand the glorious Lost Cause cannot be disputed here, I shall delete the bookmark to this site and trouble you no more in the future.
"Have you ever lived in the South?" Born and partly raised in the upper south. Never met a negro nor even saw one closer that 100 yards away. Was told that they stunk and were generally scary creatures. When a person uncovers some unexplained history, he does indeed go "shopping" for an explanation. (I understand they do something like that in the field of science too..) I found such an explanation in a book which you pretty obviously have never read and probably had never heard of. "Well, in your theory the soldiers must have been damned ignorant." The explanation I've personally adopted does indeed have the white southerners "damned ignorant". Their literacy rates would have been low, but a much larger problem was that they lived in a police state where the mail was monitored and strangers watched. Being caught with the wrong book in their pockets got a number of people strung up by a lynch mob. Despite starting a war where it was at a great disadvantage, the South could have won, and even at a relatively late date. The link is to a long letter General Patrick Cleburne wrote at the beginning of 1864 to his commanding officer proposing discarding slavery in order to win independence for the South. Here is another modern link: I've read that this effort destroyed any chance Cleburne had of higher command, and the man was essentially murdered by Hood at the battle of Franklin. Abolish slavery, and all of a sudden the southern negro has a cause for which he will be both willing and trustworthy to fight for. Britain and other nations would no longer be repelled by the stench of slavery and would have supported the South because the Brits had always hated the United States and wanted to destroy this growing competitor. But going down in defeat WITH slavery was preferred by the power elites in the south to winning WITHOUT it. May I suggest you consult your local library about Chandra Manning's What This Cruel War Was Over: Soldiers, Slavery, and the Civil War and actually read it before continuing to sneer at her work. When you've done that, I'd welcome hearing about any holes you can punch in her scholarship. Also:
This site isn't the easiest for me to log-in-to, so I use the Opera browser with VPN (virtual private network) enabled. This "reports" my location as some mighty strange places; sometimes even Europe. For the record I'm in Indiana. For most of my life I couldn't understand the ordinary white soldiers in the South - why did they fight and die for an institution so directly opposed to their own interests? Only after reading What This Cruel War Was Over did the motives of the Southern Soldier finally become clear to me. The reason they fought so long and so hard was to protect themselves and most especially their loved ones from the barbaric slaves. Generations of indoctrination had ground that fear into their very marrow. But now I realized I had no explanation for why the North stayed in the desperate fight and took so many losses. It has taken a lot of reading and digestion of what I've read to reach my current conclusion the North fought for the exact same reason - to protect themselves and their loved ones - from the institution of slavery. Chief Justice Roger B. Taney of Dred Scott fame had a larger agenda, and at the outbreak of the Civil War was on the verge of voiding all Northern laws against slavery. This was well reported at the time, and people in the North knew they couldn't possibly compete against slave blacksmiths, factory workers, or any other skilled or unskilled professions. So they were determined to destroy the institution of slavery. Never mind that the Northern folks were at least as racist as the Southerners - they demonstrated that after the War when they threw the freed blacks to the wolves. Nor were they any more virtuous in other ways - I was shocked to learn that Southern POWs in the North were treated as badly as the captured Union troops had been in the South. As for the Southern Elites pulling a "Pearl Harbor" at Ft. Sumter, that was a bit of stupidity at least as bad as Japan tackling the US in WW2. Both the Slavers and the Japanese thought themselves to be ten feet tall and their opponents a bunch of sniveling p****** who would quickly beg for terms. When you deliberately stick your hand into a meat grinder, you can't complain a whole hell of a lot when it gets mangled.
No living person can be faulted for their ancestors, but I'm obscurely proud I don't have any who fought for the South. Wish the same was true for the Revolution - though the females of the family qualify for the DAR more than a dozen ways, there were also an awful lot of folks on the side of the Brits. The only recorded slave-owner was a Revolutionary soldier. Oddly enough, nobody was in WW1, and there are yet no records of anybody involved in the 1812 war.
It seems to me there is a real possibility that Hezbollah's missiles could have become a lot more active since the last round. If that is the case, Israel may be starting something it'll end up wishing it hadn't. The key part is the first minute. Hillay had the duty to do her best for her client, and she got him off. But as the audio clip indicates, she knew he was guilty. THAT may be standard lawyer stuff, but laughing about the event years later is beyond the pale.
As you say, both the risk and expense would be extraordinary. The risks can be minimized at even more cost - even the first Mercury launches had an escape system. As for who would have all the money, the only people who come to mind are the super rich. Pulling a number out of my rear end, I'd expect Musk to charge something like a hundred million dollars per ticket. It seems to me that the entire project is sort of crazy, but if the Earth's ecosystem starts to collapse I could be very wrong about that. Getting to Mars is a big problem. First there is the zero gravity. Second is the cosmic ray radiation. Solving the first will be moderately easy, but the second could be a bitch. Brute force approaches like 3 feet thick polyethylene shielding would probably be too heavy. Perhaps some necessary bulk cargo required on Mars would serve, but all the extra mass would mean even longer trip times. I believe some extremely strong magnetic shielding would be necessary. Power for such a system could be billboard-sized solar panels like that little ion spaceship Dawn used. If those solar panels could be stowed and safely transported to the Mars surface, they'd help power the electric bulldozers and rock crushers and manufacturing devices. With unlimited electricity synthetic food could probably be made until giant greenhouses were up and running. Protection against radiation on Mars would mean moving underground and going out only in heavily shielded vehicles. Poul Anderson once described how the lower gravity would alter the humans there. Again, all this is doable, but insanely expensive.
(I know these assertions can be argued, and numerous books have been written about them and I am picking and choosing among my library to make an argument.) ~~~~~ Well, THAT part can't be contested. The Nazis were indeed concerned about a repeat of WW1 hunger, and worked to ensure it wouldn't happen again. After the blitzkreig victory in the West, that was guaranteed. For the remainder of the war Germany lived 'high on the hog' with confiscated foods from the conquered lands. Attacking the USSR was about a German Empire and nothing else. "Then came the tragic British misstep. Hot heads in the UK suddenly issued a guarantee of support to Poland and Romania without consulting with Russia. This sudden move, this sharp reversal of attitude, was bound to be seen as a provocation to Hitler, and it was." I'm sorry, but this is just plain silly.
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