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Or, alternately, Sperry knows what he's talking about and we're full of crap. If Sperry is correct and the final Page FISA renewal was processed by the Mueller SC team, then that triggers my "4D Chess Mueller was working with Trump and the Page FISA was flipped to spy on all the members of the Obama criminal cabal who communicated with Page" confirmation bias. Think about it. If Mueller is who processed the final Page FISA renewal and used it to continue spying on everyone on Team Trump that Carter Page communicated with AND Rosenstein signed off on it, then there is no way on God's green earth that Trump doesn't fire Rosenstein on the spot for being a backstabbing traitor.
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This kind of spin will make you dizzy. Why Warren’s Drop In the Polls Is Good News for Her https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2019/12/13/warren-harris-altitude-084150
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On page 82 of the Horowitz report is an organization chart. Peter Strzok is shown in the Operations Branch. Case Agents 1,6 & 7 are shown in the bottom right of the chart under the New York field office supervised by SSA 5. The Horowitz report states Case Agent 1 is who filled out the original FISA packet and first renewal and Case Agent 6 filled out the second and third renewal.
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KK @ 4:53 No contradiction. FISA packets are prepared by the FBI's CounterIntel department. Priestap was the chief of that department and Strzok was a CI agent. However at the time of the final Page FISA renewal Strzok was detailed to the Mueller SC which means he was not working in the CI department anymore.
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JMH @ 4:42 I believe you are correct. The reason for that from the "Rosenstein is a White Hat crowd" is because RR knew McCabe was corrupt and the investigation had to be removed from McCabe's control.
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However one would have thought Horowitz would at least mention "Mueller's team" was the one getting FISA warrants. Agree. The only logical possible explanation I can come up with is that since there was no mention whatsoever in the report of Mueller being involved in the final Page FISA warrant then that is clear evidence he had nothing to do with it and Sperry is full of crap. The alternative is that Horowitz intentionally omitted a significant fact in his report which would then raise questions on its overall validity.
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Iggy @ 4:12 The dates of the four FISA warrants were declassified a couple days ago. We now know the fourth Page FISA packet was signed on 29 June 2017. Strzok was still working for Mueller at that time and didn't get fired until July 2017. In other words, at the time the fourth FISA packet was going thru the approval process, Strzok was NOT working for the FBI organization involved with preparing the FISA packet.
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TK @ 3:39 Are you aware of publicly available evidence that Peter Strzok was personally involved in the final renewal of the Page FISA warrant? I was under the impression that the name of the affiant who created the FISA packet was redacted on all four FISA packets. Sperry's mistake was bush league and if he did it intentionally knowing his accusation was bullshit then he should publish a retraction and an apology.
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If you want a laugh read this oped. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/11/opinions/nancy-pelosi-banner-year-gergen-piltch/index.html
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"It's the sun stupid" should be the standard response to the Climate Communists. You can google that phrase and get some pretty informative articles on the subject. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/the-sun-has-been-eerily-quiet-for-264-days-in-a-row-just-96-hours-short-of-setting-a-new-record-with-no-surface-activity-since-march-24/ar-AAK6q5H?ocid=ientp
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I know Paul Sperry is well liked here but this oped damages his credibility. The Mueller SC team had absolutely nothing to do with submitting the final renewal of the Page FISA warrant. https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/12/11/the_carter_page-ukraine_lie_that_kept_on_lying_for_mueller_and_the_fbi_121590.html But Mueller’s team did not update its fourth and final FISA warrant application on Page with this exculpatory information. Instead, it recited the same baseless claim that he had shaped the Ukraine policy with guidance from Russia. And the court renewed the warrant that June to electronically monitor Page, allowing the government to continue vacuuming up all of his emails, phone calls, text messages and other communications for another 90 days.
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I wonder how many Democrat Senators up for re-election in 2020 saw the results of the British election and had an "oh shit" moment?
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If Bloomberg approved the creation of this video shouldn’t that be clear evidence he doesn’t possess the judgment skills required to be POTUS? https://twitter.com/fogcitymidge/status/1205515319193874432
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I’m forced to agree with this Pelosi vs Ryan comparison. https://twitter.com/mutnodjmet/status/1205490193454661633
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I bet it was painful for a Communist/Progressive like Chait to write this oped. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/corbyn-bernie-sanders-socialism-british-election-2020.html I do give Chait credit for correctly using the term "leftist" to describe his fellow comrades and not "liberal".
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Not having to play for the Giants anymore is a blessing in disguise. Jenkins cut for calling a fan "retard". https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28290276/giants-waive-cb-janoris-jenkins-offensive-tweet-fan
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How many House Democrats are actually eager to be on the losing end of the impending ass kicking? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/inside-jockeying-prosecute-donald-trump-s-impeachment-n1100506
Rosenstien is, and has always been on both sides of the aisle. It depends on what benefits him at the time. Can anyone provide documented examples of Rosenstein aiding and abetting the Democrats because it benefitted him in some manner? I am genuinely not aware of any. I do know Rosenstein worked under Ken Starr in the Whitewater investigation so I'll go out on a limb and bet RR was not on the side of the Democrats for those 3 years.
Democrats are big fans of democracy until identity politics loses out to democracy. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/nevada-demoralized-by-all-white-democratic-top-tier/ar-AAK1Vb8?ocid=ientp
Until today did anyone know there was a "R" word? https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28285061/giants-janoris-jenkins-says-using-r-word-hood-thing
The Horde is conservative and opposes the expansion of the nanny state as do I. I agree with that policy from an ideal world perspective but what is more important? Winning that ideological battle or winning the overall culture war against the Communist/Progressives?
Wasn't Comey allowed to read the sections that refers to him and his actions? That is supposed to be the policy but there were reports Comey refused to get his security clearance updated (or something to that effect) and that prevented Horowitz from interviewing him so who knows.
Willowed from the last thread: mac @ 1:57 You also need to include Captain Hate and I think Clarice and Porchlight as other posters who think Rosenstein was always an ally of Trump. I'll add on to your main point. I assume (keyword assume) that Graham routinely discusses political strategy with Trump. As the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, I also assume Graham routinely communicates with AG Barr as part of his oversight duties. I am fairly certain Graham's statement about calling Rosenstein to testify was fully blessed (and perhaps even directed) by Trump and Barr. I am also pretty confident Rosenstein is eager to testify. IMO if Trump or Barr did not want Rosenstein to testify then Graham would not have called for him to testify.
mac @ 1:57 You also need to include Captain Hate and I think Clarice and Porchlight as other posters who think Rosenstein was always an ally of Trump. I'll add on to your main point. I assume (keyword assume) that Graham routinely discusses political strategy with Trump. As the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, I also assume Graham routinely communicates with AG Barr as part of his oversight duties. I am fairly certain Graham's statement about calling Rosenstein to testify was fully blessed (and perhaps even directed) by Trump and Barr. I am also pretty confident Rosenstein is eager to testify. IMO if Trump or Barr did not want Rosenstein to testify then Graham would not have called for him to testify.
The Horde is thrashing the rugrats. Does The Horde not like the fact that the MAGA coalition consists of both conservatives and liberals? Trump himself has a lot of liberal beliefs. Trump won in 2016 thanks to crossover blue collar, middle class liberals who traditionally voted Democrat. He needs their support in 2020 as well. The MAGA team needs as many people on it as we can get in order to defeat the Communists/Progressives. If Ivanka's liberal initiatives along with the prison reform championed by Kanye West help Trump win over more liberals and independents to the MAGA agenda then I'm fine with that.