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Here's inspiring photos of the Climate Rally in support of HB 2020 that I took yesterday on the capitol steps, plus a video of Gov. Brown's remarks. Even though Democratic leaders have declared the bill to be dead, I and other supporters of reducing carbon pollution and creating renewal energy... Continue reading
Posted yesterday at Salem Political Snark
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It's time for me to face reality. Democrats here in Oregon aren't willing to fight for what they believe in. So why should I remain an active Democrat? That's a question I'm grappling with after Governor Kate Brown, Senate President Peter Courtney, and other Democratic leaders in the state legislature... Continue reading
Posted 2 days ago at Salem Political Snark
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Hopefully, tomorrow the Salem City Council will take a big environmental step forward by approving $50,000 in the FY 2020 budget (begins on July 1, 2019) to start work on a climate action plan. The $50,000 was discussed at length at the council's June 10 meeting. Councilor Tom Andersen made... Continue reading
Posted 4 days ago at Salem Political Snark
Georgy, the High Court of Delhi has determined that Gurinder failed to pay his debts and must have his assets frozen prior to being garnished. This is an undeniable fact. So there’s no need for anyone to ask Gurinder about this. If you consider being someone who doesn’t pay their debts to be a sign of divinity, you have a very strange view of God.
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I'm trying to find a bright spot in the irritating walkout of eleven Republican members of the state Senate. They're opposed to a bill that has a pretty damn good rationale behind it: preserving our one and only Earth for human habitation. But since these ignoramuses in the GOP view... Continue reading
Posted 5 days ago at Salem Political Snark
Arjuna, don't worry about being drunk. To me you're making perfect sense!
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Georgy, if you'd bothered to click on the link I shared in this post, you'd get the full story of what I said back in 2005. But that would take some work on your part, and I know you just like to make uninformed comments. But here's a passage to whet your appetite for my humility, and why I feel so much more relaxed and ego-less than when I was a member of RSSB. -------------------- My believing now is centered around the notion of pressure. This isn’t something I believe in as much as I feel. I no longer like the feeling of being inflated more highly than the surrounding world. It takes too much effort to keep my ego-pump running all of the time. Once I read on the Internet how members of my spiritual group, Radha Soami Satsang Beas, considered themselves Technicolor people in a black and white world. That’s a telling and accurate image. It is true for virtually all types of religious people, though, not just a few.
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Georgy Porgy, I love your comments! A friend used to have a favorite saying, "No one's life ever is completely wasted. They always can serve as a horrible example for others." Your life definitely isn't being wasted. Your comments are a marvelous example of how people can look straight at reality, but not see it, because their vision is clouded by blind belief. So thanks for that. Wow. After learning from Amar that the RSSB guru travels in a private jet, has lavish residences built around the world for his use paid for from the money of others, and encourages a system of volunteer work where some classes of "sevadars" are given special privileges, you somehow consider Gurinder Singh Dhillon to be an exemplar of humility and treating everybody equally. And Amar didn't mention that the guru sits on a stage and allows his devotees to believe that he is God in Human Form, or that the guru and his family are involved in financial fraud totaling hundreds of millions of dollars, and is the subject of a court order that has frozen his assets so they can be garnished to pay huge debts that the guru walked out on. Yet you see the RSSB guru as a model of humility. You aren't living in the real world, Georgy Porgy. Just like religious believers everywhere, you live in a fantasy world when it comes to religious matters. So please keep on commenting. Every time I read one of your comments I feel grateful that I'm an open-minded atheist rather than a closed-minded religious believer.
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What a complete non-surprise. Eleven Republican members of the Oregon Senate have walked out to deny Democrats a quorum needed to pass House Bill 2020, much-needed legislation to reduce carbon pollution in this state. Many, if not most, have travelled out of state, which puts them outside the reach of... Continue reading
Posted 7 days ago at Salem Political Snark
Nancy, I have some news for you also. I'm not obsessed with Gurinder. I spend zero time thinking about him outside of the posts I write for this blog. I have two other blogs that never mention Gurinder, and I'm happily working on a book based on my early posts on this blog in 2004 and 2005. I write about Gurinder because, as I often say on this blog, i'm now an atheist who is most familiar with the religion I was associated with for 35 years, Radha Soami Satsang Beas. If I'd de-converted from Catholicism, I'm sure I'd have been writing about child sex abuse scandals. Instead, I'm writing about a financial fraud scandal involving the RSSB guru. One of my goals is to expose RSSB devotees, which I assume includes yourself, to the benefits of critical thinking and an open mind. I use critical thinking to understand investigative reports and stories in the Indian financial press, and to draw inferences from this information. I have an open mind about what will happen next, including whether Gurinder somehow is absolved from wrongdoing in this matter. I want to be an example to others (unlike Gurinder, who has been a poor example, given that he failed to pay his debts and an Indian court has had to force the sale of his assets to get the debts paid), and hope that devotees of the guru will be as open-minded as I am by leaving open the possibility in their own minds that the RSSB guru was a co-conspirator in the financial fraud. When I write about this issue, it's pleasing that the daily visitor count to this blog goes up, and by quite a bit. This shows that people around the world want to read about the hypocrisy of religious leaders. After all, Gurinder sits on a podium and preaches about the necessity of leading a simple life and of engaging in honest living, yet the evidence shows that he is doing just the opposite, having been obsessed with enriching himself during his stint as guru, using his position as the head of RSSB to put hundreds of millions of dollars into the pockets of himself and his family. At least the Catholic church did something, albeit not enough, about the child abuse scandal. So far there's no sign Radha Soami Satsang Beas is doing anything about the guru's financial fraud scandal. Sad. Regularly I get emails from people who thank me for informing them about the financial scandal the RSSB guru is deeply enmeshed in. This encourages me to keep on, as the saying goes, speaking truth to power. So thanks for reading my blog posts. I respect your right to disagree with my conclusions about the guru. What's important is that all of us use our critical thinking and keep an open mind.
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J, Malvinder's criminal complaint against Gurinder, the Dhillon family, Sunil Godhwani, and others alleges that the conspiracy was orchestrated in part by Godhwani --- after he was installed as the CEO of Religare at the request of the RSSB guru. So Malvinder apparently wasn't the one in charge of siphoning the money out of his own companies and into the pockets of the Dhillon family. Godhwani and possibly others at Religare and Fortis were, along with the members of the Dhillon family and their associates who controlled shell companies at the time that received the fraudulent loans and passed the money on to the Dhillons. A blog post I wrote tonight contains messages from Malvinder that cast light on all this, which admittedly is a complex subject that is difficult to understand in full.
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Vijay, I'd read the entire criminal complaint closely, and wrote a detailed blog post about it here: https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2019/02/legal-filing-against-gurinder-singh-dhillon-is-fascinating-reading.html I'd also scanned through some of the attachments, but hadn't studied them in detail. So I'd forgotten, or had never known, that Malvinder describes the exact amounts of money that Gurinder Singh Dhillon and his family members owe. In regards to Anon, she mainly talked about how the SEBI reports don't mention Gurinder Singh Dhillon or his family, which is true. But Malvinder's criminal complaint DOES mention Gurinder, his family, and Sunil Godhwani, the guru's right hand man -- a lot. So the criminal complaint points, obviously, to the guru's alleged criminality. I keep mentioning this complaint in my blog posts, but I don't believe Anon used it to defend the RSSB guru. How could she? The complaint says that the guru and his family, along with Godhwani, conspired to siphon over a billion dollars from Malvinder and companies once controlled by him. So it's good to see that you and others are paying more attention to the criminal complaint now that the High Court of Delhi is forcing the Dhillon family to repay the money that they wrongly got.
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JS, I'm curious where you found the court documents you mentioned. If you come across this comment, let me know via another comment or email me at the address in the right sidebar.
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JS, great question. I've also wondered about this. I've been assuming that Malvinder and his attorneys have a fairly good sense of the value of the assets that the Dhillon family owns, and what they own. I agree: if the RSSB guru had been able to pay Malvinder what the Dhillon family owes him, seemingly he would have done it by now to avoid the embarrassment of the High Court of Delhi basically labeling him the Deadbeat Guru.
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Anon, as is usually the case, your single-minded focus on defending the RSSB guru for his ill-gotten gains is preventing you from seeing some other viewpoints.. (1) You mentioned the family settlement letter proposed by Gurinder. Reports are that Shivinder agreed to sign the letter absolving the debts the Dhillon family owed to the Singh brothers in exchange for Shivinder essentially buying the position of RSSB guru from Gurinder. Malvinder refused to sign the agreement, which his subsequent criminal complaint says led to him getting a death threat from Gurinder's attorney. (2) This shows that the Dhillon family had some personal debts with the Singh brothers, some of which could have involved transfers of money into shell companies controlled by the Dhillon family that were not part of the SEBI investigations. (3) The SEBI investigations involved fraudulent siphoning of money from public companies into other shell companies, some or all of which were controlled at the time by the Dhillon family and their associates. So there appears to be two sources of money for the Dhillon family: directly from the Singh brothers and via siphoning of money from public companies. (4) The High Court of Delhi order is aimed at recovering money owed by the Singh brothers to Daiichi, since they lost a court case involving the sale of Ranbaxy to Daiichi where the brothers failed to disclose pertinent information about adulterated drugs prior to the sale. So it appears unlikely that the High Court would order the garnishing of assets/loans that came from anywhere else but the Singh brothers. The Singh brothers owe Daiichi; the Dhillon family and others owe to the Singh brothers; so the High Court has ordered garnishing of those debts directly into a Daiichi account. (5) Separately, as I've written about in several blog posts, the board of Religare and Sheetal Talwar's attorneys have informed SEBI and possibly other Indian authorities that the ultimate beneficiaries of the fraudulent loans that came from the public companies were the Dhillon family. Talwar also alleges that the RSSB guru and his family were part of the financial fraud conspiracy. Religare is seeking the tracing and recovery of those funds. (6) So as you noted, it appears likely that the fraudulent funds cited in the SEBI reports that went into shell companies, and then to the Dhillon family and their associates, aren't part of the High Court of Delhi order, since those funds were siphoned from public companies, not from the Singh brothers. It's difficult to believe that the High Court would garnish assets of the Dhillon family and other entities that weren't loans or other debts owed to the Singh brothers. (7) Reports in the Indian financial press indicate that the total amount of money that flowed into the pockets of the Dhillon family from both private (Singh brothers) and public (Fortis/Religare) sources approached a billion dollars. So if $500 million is hoped to be obtained from the High Court order, there could be hundreds of millions more to be recovered by the public companies, assuming the Dhillon family investments in real estate haven't declined markedly in value.
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Spence, another excellent comment. Maybe one day Anon will have her blinders pulled off and realize the truth of the RSSB guru's deep involvement in this financial fraud. Regarding the shell companies, here's another idea. Apparently they only served as conduits for money to be siphoned from Fortis/Religare into the pockets of the Dhillon family and their associates. Seemingly by this time the assets, if any, of the shell companies would be known to Indian authorities. If a shell company had no substantial assets or cash, there would no point for the High Court of Delhi to include in the list of entities subject to garnishment so that the Daiichi award could be paid. I'm not saying this is what occurred. It's just a believable hypothesis.
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Georgy Porgy, you are amazingly adverse to facts. Have you ever heard of Google? Apparently not. Maybe you should take a break from commenting and spend time learning about how to learn. I'm good at it. Just took me a minute or two to fire up Wikipedia and learn about what you wrongly call "tabloid trash." Here's some excerpts from the Mint article (LiveMint is the online version). ------------------- Mint is an Indian financial daily newspaper published by HT Media, a Delhi-based media group which is controlled by the KK Birla family and also publishes Hindustan Times.[2] It mostly targets readers who are business executives and policy makers. It has been in circulation since 2007.[3] It is India's first newspaper to be published in the Berliner format. The former editor of the Wall Street Journal India, Raju Narisetti was the founding editor of Mint till he stepped down in 2008.[4] Narisetti was succeeded by Sukumar Ranganathan who served as editor till 2017.[5 ...According to former editor Sukumar Ranganathan, in its 10 years of existence, Mint has won 10 Society of Publishers of Asia awards and 10 Ramnath Goenka Excellence in Journalism awards.[14] In 2008, the newspaper won two awards at the 7th Annual Asia Media Awards organised by the World Association of Newspapers and News Publishers.[15] For 2009, the newspaper won three Ranmnath Goenka awards in the fifth edition of the awards presented by the Indian Express Group.[16] In 2011 and 2012, the newspaper won three Ramnath Goenka awards, two for 2011 and one for 2012.[17] In 2016, Mint won three Ramnath Goenka Excellence in Journalism awards.[18]
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Georgy Porgy, you're denying reality, a very unscientific thing to do. Face the facts. Spence Tepper has been doing a good job refuting Anon's tactless comments with direct quotes from the SEBI report. Numerous stories in the Indian financial press have documented the illegal siphoning of funds to shell companies controlled at the time by the Dhillon family and their close associates. You really should inform yourself before writing comments so at odds with the facts. Truth is a wonderful thing.
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Georgy Porgy, it isn't that a little free speech is allowed. A LOT of free speech is allowed. Show me a religious blog or web site that allows such free wheeling discussion. Does RSSB allow this? Of course not. Only us open minded atheists are so welcoming of comments from all sorts of people. The only people who are banned from leaving comments on anything other than Open Threads are those who repeatedly and blatantly abuse this blog's commenting policy. Currently, just "777" and Ashy, who uses many names.
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Georgy Porgy, you submitted one comment under a different name that got missed by me. It's now been published. Every other "Georgy Porgy" comment has been approved. So don't assume you've been banned without good evidence. Email me if you have a problem with a comment not being published.
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Anon, all of your comments have been posted, and there's nothing in the spam folder. So if one of your comments hasn't appeared, it's because you haven't submitted it yet.
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Anon, you are acting more and more like a RSSB troll, not someone who sincerely wants to understand what is going on with the financial scandal. If you had bothered to read my many blog posts on this subject, you'd know that the Dhillon family and their associates were directors of the shell companies that cooperated in the financial fraud described in the SEBI report. Here's one recent post you need to read: https://hinessight.blogs.com/church_of_the_churchless/2019/06/rssb-guru-identified-as-beneficiary-of-fraudulent-funds.html Sheetal Talwar, the filmmaker, and his attorneys describe the involvement of the Dhillon family. Here's excerpts from a Business Today story: -------------------- Talwar has told Sebi that even though its Religare investigation via forensic audit firm MSA concluded fund diversion and large scale irregularities and illegalities, the probe did not lift the corporate veil to disclose the ultimate beneficiaries of the diversion. Advocates & Solicitors Kartikeya & Associates-representing Talwar-have submitted to Sebi on 29 May, 2019 that, "...the persons who have benefitted the most and/or on whose instance the said illegalities and irregularities were and/or have been committed have yet not been identified. Please note that the persons and/or the shadow promoters of REL, RFL and their other group companies is one Gurinder Singh Dhillon (GSD/Babaji) and his family". Sebi's original investigation against alleged fund diversion at Religare Enterprises & Religare Finvest was triggered by Talwar's primary complaint to RBI (later forwarded to Sebi) dated 12 April, 2017. In his complaint, Talwar had informed RBI about alleged "irregularities and illegalities committed by the promoters and/or board of directors" of the two companies. RBI forwarded the complaint to Sebi which ordered the probe via MSA. Talwar's complaint to Sebi has also levelled a grave charge of a serious conflict of interest among Religare's then board members. "...the fact that the companies shared common directors to the GSD family as well as were all run by GSD followers eg. Just a quick review would point to the fact that during the diversion of funds, Vitoba, Platinum and Devera entities to which fund were diverted would reveal that Yuvraj Narain Gorwaney alias Mithu is on the board of these companies-not only is Yuvraj...the secretary of RSSB, he also sits on the board of Logos Holding along with GSD and Shabnam Dhillon. Many such associations exist between the entities named and GSD family."
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Manu, I'm Brian Hines. I don't really "own" this blog, but I started it and keep it going. I don't make any money from the blog. In fact, I have to pay Typepad, who runs the blogging service I use. I'm a 70 year old retired guy who lives in Salem, Oregon with my wife and dog on ten non-easycare rural acres that drives me crazy at times, yet also helps keep me healthy, given all the work our property takes. I started this blog in 2004. You can read all of the posts since then through the Archives section in the right sidebar. I wrote several books for Radha Soami Satsang Beas and was an active member of RSSB for 35 years. So I have a lot of good memories from that time. Eventually, though, I lost faith in the Sant Mat teachings and became a spiritually independent person. If I'd been a Christian, I'd be using Christianity as an example of how religions don't make sense. Because I'm so familiar with RSSB, not surprisingly I use its teachings as examples of how religions don't make sense. RSSB is especially interesting because like other Sant Mat groups, the focus is on a Perfect Living Master who is considered to be God in human form. So if that master or guru acts in decidedly unperfect and ungodlike ways, this cuts at the foundation of the RSSB teachings. By contrast, as I noted in a recent blog post, Christians believe in the perfection of Jesus, who is long gone. Thus if Christian leaders do bad stuff, it is disturbing to other Christians, but it doesn't shake their faith.
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Rajesh, there's only one side to this story. The RSSB guru has been silent, as has his family. If he was innocent of financial fraud and of making death threats, don't you think Gurinder Singh would be eager to stand before reporters and explain why the stories in the Indian financial press are wrong? Instead, the guru has been hiding away. What is he afraid of, the truth? Should a satguru be afraid of the truth, since "sat" means truth?
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Anon, your version of events suffers from a big flaw: reality. The truth is found in the SEBI (Securities and Exchange Board of India) report and a complaint filed by the board of Religare. The money that ended up in the pockets of the Dhillon family didn't come from the Singh brothers. If it had, why would Malvinder have filed a criminal complaint against the RSSB guru, his family, and close associates for conspiring to siphon funds from a public company, Religare? In truth, as I've been reporting, Sunil Godhwani (guru's right hand man) plus others at Religare, I assume, orchestrated financial fraud with the complicity of people at the shell companies that were controlled at the time by members of the Dhillon family and their associates. This wasn't a case of the Singh brothers generously giving the Dhillon family a bunch of money. That could have been done privately. Instead, Religare and SEBI have shown that money from a public company was siphoned off in a fraudulent fashion to the RSSB guru, his family, and close associates.
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