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Toggle Commented 1 hour ago on From Dream Maker To Heart Breaker at Canespace
After three sets and seven match points in a matchup between the two highest-ranked players in the country, the NCAA Singles Championship trophy is headed to Coral Gables, Fla. Top-seeded Estela Perez-Somarriba of the University of Miami women's tennis team... Continue reading
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Toggle Commented yesterday on From Dream Maker To Heart Breaker at Canespace
It took 11 innings, but the North Carolina Tar Heels upset the Miami Hurricanes to win Pool D at the 2019 ACC Baseball Championship with a 7-5 win on Friday. Miami (39-18) was the No. 4 seed in the tournament... Continue reading
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I remember selling cokes in the late 50's so I could get in free to watch Don Bossler and Fran Curci play. The old girl was a neet place back in those days with open end zones. You could see the Miami sky line out of the east end zone, especially cool on a full moon evening. Great memiries for 13 year old. Posted by: Harry Miller | May 23, 2019 at 07:54 PM This is why U CANESPACE! #Authentic #RealDeal #OldSkool
1) Easy problem to solve. Why take it from the other sports when you can take it from the coaches? Larry Fedora was the 50th highest paid coach of an amateur league and made 2.5 million dollars a year in salary alone. But they complain about profitibilaty? You talk about how many players would love the opportunity to play college well how many coaches in other amateur ranks eg high school would love to make a quarter of that to coach a kids game? 2) You keep throwing out 250-400k. However most schools don't cost that much. UCF is 100k for all 4 years and that is tuition, room and board, all expenses. 2B) Plus they don't get the full academic experience because they have to put so much time into a sport. It's like having a full-time job while going to school. 3)Most athletes voluntarily enter into those deals because they have to if they want to get to those leagues. Especially the NFL. 3B) The law doesn't fail me. Nothing I said would break a law. It would change the rules. 4. You keep saying there are 100,000 other athletes. Well there are probably 50,000 other coaches who would leap at taking a 4th of what these guys get and they would be better than Larry Coker. Well there are probably 50,000 other coaches who would leap at taking a 4th of what these guys get and they would be better than Larry Coker. 5. You just are personally against putting the players on better footing and increasing their piece of the pie. I am personally for seeing them getting a piece of the pie. I am for the players, you are for the system. Doesn't make you a bad guy we are just pulling for different sides here. Posted by: HillviewCane | May 21, 2019 at 01:18 AM OK, here we go... 1. Do not confuse or conflate issues: The point we were debating is whether players should be paid, NOT whether coaches are paid too much. Don't link or confuse the two or make one fact dependent on the other. If you feel players should be paid it should stand on it's own merits not whether coaches are paid too much. As already indicated, I think most of us agree that coaches are overpaid and some limits (Federal) should be imposed if institutions receive Federal subsidies (they all do). 2. Don't get bogged down in the details: Numbers and names are not relevant, the facts and the debating points are what is important. If it is $100k on the low end and $300k on the high end just settle for an average of $200k. But even that number is irrelevant, payers ARE getting paid, that is my point. 2B) I had a full time job while going to school and was still on the Dean's list at UM for three years with a 3.83 average before I got lazy in my Senior year. Ended at 3.75. No excuses. 3) Nobody is suffering. You think so, but it is not the case. Many players are leaving abject poverty to complete luxury. Stop your whining. 3B) The Law does fail you. See Title IX and get educated. 4. We have already been over this. Don't do this in a debate. Not fair play. 5. Do not use the word "personally" to make your point. You are trying to shame and blame and appear morally superior when you do this. As in you as a "person" are better than me as a "person". Or that your views are better than mine. That is not fair play. The debate on the issues or facts have nothing to do with you or me as a person. Thank you.
Every fan that went all the way to Texas to take a grown ass whippin should get two free home game tickets or at least a coupon for a visit to a psychiatrist. Posted by: solarcane | May 22, 2019 at 11:19 AM Texas? UM has never played in Texas, have they? #PTSD #DenialIsStageOne #Depression #CognitiveDissonance
If UM struggles again this season then the school should pay us... Posted by: Sarasota 'cane | May 22, 2019 at 10:52 AM On THIS we ALL agree!
If you both argued for across the board salary caps on top 25 team coaching staffs you would escape Soup,OGV,and T Sully's wrath. Posted by: solarcane | May 21, 2019 at 05:09 PM This is true. If there can be a Title IX Federal Law against discriminating against women's sports and sharing revenue and opportunity I would support a Federal Law saying that any school receiving Federal Funding (which would mean all) would have a salary cap on college coaches salaries so that more money can be spent on academics or other non-revenue sports and facilities, training, etc. To me this is also especially true at State run/funded schools. But if one State sets a salary cap and another does not then you would have inequity and a tip in the balance of power. When the football coach makes 10 times what the president of the University makes something is not quite right? The spending is out of control. I am happy IF some schools are making money from athletics but that revenue should be shared with the University on the academic side to build new educational facilities, hire more or better professors, fund research and improve technology other equally productive and beneficial activities that Universities are supposed to be about in the first place.
Hillview...interesting response and use of words. I will respond later today. Appreciate your thoughts on this.
No Response? I thought so.
1) Couple of things. You guys who say the Athletic programs don't make a profit..that may be true but there is a difference between athletic programs and football programs! The football programs make enough profits to supplement the olympic sports. There is difference between athletic programs and football programs. 2) If you can pay regular kids to be in commercials then athletes of all ages should be allowed to make money of their likeness. A kid can make money if they are in a gatorade commercial but not if they are also an athlete? Makes no sense. 3) Athletes get ruled ineligible for selling water bottles online and making their own youtube videos...BS Posted by: HillviewCane | May 19, 2019 at 12:03 AM OK, Since I have a few minutes to kill, here we go. Follow the LOGIC, LAW and common sense... 1. If you take all the money from "Revenue Sports" like football for most and basketball for some schools (baseball often loses money) and give all or even half or even some of it away to the players then the "Non-Revenue Sports" would die. There is this little problem of a Federal Law called Title IX would have NONE of that. (READ the LAW even though I know you have no real knowledge or respect for it). Overview of Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 On June 23, 1972, the President signed Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, 20 U.S.C. §1681 et seq., into law. Title IX is a comprehensive federal law that prohibits discrimination on the basis of sex in any federally funded education program or activity. The principal objective of Title IX is to avoid the use of federal money to support sex discrimination in education programs and to provide individual citizens effective protection against those practices. Title IX applies, with a few specific exceptions, to all aspects of federally funded education programs or activities. In addition to traditional educational institutions such as colleges, universities, and elementary and secondary schools, Title IX also applies to any education or training program operated by a recipient of federal financial assistance. The Department of Education has issued regulations on the requirements of Title IX, 34 C.F.R. § 106.1et seq. The Title IX common rule published on August 30, 2000 covers education program providers/recipients that are funded by other federal agencies. 2. Kids in commercials can make money because they did not sign a scholarship (Value of $250,000-$400,000 and BTW we call that "getting paid") to attend a NCAA sanctioned university and abide by it laws and requirements and restrictions. Athletes who VOLUNTARILY sign a scholarship to attend a NCAA sanctioned university AGREE in writing to the terms and conditions to which YOU oppose but THEY do not. In fact we have stated over and over again that according to YOU "the horrible conditions that these atheltes have to suffer through" are not only contracts voluntarily entered into by the athlete (Legal terms) but that if they refused there are at least 100,000 oter athletes denied these opportunities that would JUMP on the offer if given (real life facts). 3. See above. The athletes VOLUNTARILY agreed to the terms of the scholarship and the educational institution and the NCAA. They do so because of the chance to earn MILLIONS in the NFL, NBA and MLB, and maybe even the NHL, PGA, MLS or other. No other opportunity in the world offers amature athletes an opportunity that can compare to the FREE RIDE college scholarship with housing, tutors, meals, medical care and coaching to get a college education and a degree while playing a sport you love for a potential LOTTERY winning draft into the BIG leagues. Most high school athletes dream of that opportunity and some would literally die for it. You dismiss it as a form of slavery. Who would dream of or die for the chance to be a slave as you define it? In sumary, your LOGIC fails you and the LAW evades you. Try again and please use logic, the law and common sense.
Toggle Commented 6 days ago on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace
The Miami Hurricanes will be the No. 4 seed in the 2019 Atlantic Coast Conference Baseball Championship, as announced by the conference office on Sunday. The Canes (38-17, 18-12 ACC) are the top team in Pool D, joined by No.... Continue reading
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No one stays on top forever. All it takes is for one superlative athlete to emerge to push a program over the top. Posted by: TonyCane | May 20, 2019 at 08:57 PM Unfortunately RaizeCane's and UMike's eligibility have expired. We still got OGV with one year left but the pee test may be an issue? Gonna have to recruit a new guy.
Toggle Commented 6 days ago on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace
HillView...that's your arguement, seriously? Are you sure that you have thought this point all the ways through including the opposite side of the debate? The best debaters always try to see the opposing sides view to counter it. You appear to have made no effort to do so but I could be wrong?
Toggle Commented May 19, 2019 on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace
That’s why you’re down to 500 to about five regular posters on here. Posted by: Go Canes!! | May 16, 2019 at 03:27 PM As if I care. I am not running a popularity contest and I am certainly NOT in it for the money, so to act as if I give a damn is ridiculous. It matters not. To be perfectly honest and transparent and "self aware" as you like to put it there was I time when I cared like maybe 5-7 years ago. Since then and especially now, not in the slightest. BLOG ON!
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Toggle Commented May 16, 2019 on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace A little help for you uneducated or misinformed.
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Uhhhh, boy, I am so sad for you.
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Go Canes...There U go again! FYI...There are LESS that 15 schools of 125 that MAKE money, but hey, don't let that stop your roll bruh. Party on Wayne!
Toggle Commented May 16, 2019 on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace
Go Canes thanks for posting that. Now, how many NCAA athletic programs MAKE money? Please post as soon as U do your research. Out of the 120+ programs how many make money? Thank U for being fair and BALANCED! I love U bruh...
Toggle Commented May 15, 2019 on That's A Whole Lot Of Bulls at Canespace
The Old Bull and some choice heifers. Posted by: NativeCane | May 15, 2019 at 01:38 PM I'm just sayin.
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