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Interview with James Rollins on ComcastSportsNet. On it, he answers questions on various topics including Ruben and the ownership situation. I think it might stimulate some commentary.
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Want to announce some minor league signings with invitation to Spring Training for Philly. Chris McGuiness, 1B LHB Sean O'Sullivan, RHP Kevin Slowey, RHP By my count , they got the O'Sullivans back together again. Looks like not hung up on that power thing, either for batters or pitchers. People complained about P.J. Walters, and he didn't even get a Spring Training invitation.
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More Kang- The line put out on Yasmany Tomas was that at 24 and only committed for 3 sure years, cause how can they afford to re-sign anyone?, Tomas would be too old for the Phillies regeneration. At least, that what the apologists said. Maybe they say Kang also, now 27, would be too old for the Phillies regeration. Of course, it could be you could truthfully say the same about a 16 year old in the Dominican.
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Re: the 2 seemingly similar Nick Punto posts above: Page turned on me, and I thought they weren't posting and submitted 2nd one as a test, because it didn't automatically go to the most recent stuff. Kang- seeing that MLBTR states the posting fee was around 5 million and Kang seeks around 5 million a season for 4 seasons. Maybe Philly did win something. Then again, maybe they misjudged the market and made what they thought was a low-ball offer, so they could play the "Lawd knows we tried" card. So, maybe they won by mistake.
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Nick Punto- releasing team is now on hook for salary in it's entirety, so if added it will likely be for the minimum. So, if you believe Freddy Galvis is the starter , you want a back-up adept at SS. So, I say , in lieu of Cesar Hernandez, you should go Andres Blanco, or as an alternative to these, Chris Nelson, Chase D'Anaud, Cord Phelps, Edgar Duran, Carlos Alonso, K.C. Serna, or other signees or holdovers. So, the question might be: Do you want Nick Punto at the minimum , or , one of the above alternatives at the minimum?
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Howard- In the interview with Mike Missanelli, which the entire article, almost, was quoted from. Ruben, definitively states they will not release Howard. Then he says if Howard is still around they will "work around him". He also said something like "we hope he puts up the numbers we expect we hope he puts up" . Also said something like "you can not release a player of that stature and that kind of production, etc." Production meaning, maybe, RBI's or something. Sounds like some kind of double-talk to me, for what purpose I do not know.
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Nick Punto- the releasing team is now responsible for the entirety of the contract, so if they added him it would likely only be for the minimum. If you believe they go Freddy Galvis as a starter , and I project as a back-up Andres Blanco in lieu of Cesar Hernandez, because , I say , you want someone adept at SS. So, the issue might be: Do you want Andres Blanco at the minimum, or Nick Punto at the minimum? Or maybe : Cesar, Chris Nelson, Edgar Duran, Carlos Alonso, K.C. Serna, Cord Phelps, Chase d'Arnaud, or one of the other minor league guys they signed or carried over.
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Oh? Another 4 million per season pitcher? Looks like they're going to be peddling the former Fausto Carmona at the trade deadline again. Also in some analysis above, I question the use of the term "loss". It seems more like an economic loss than an actual loss. If an entity does not maximize profit and gets less in total profit than it could have, say, in the example, by selling less tickets than they could have, that would be an economic loss. A real loss would be actually taking in less money than that what was expended and the owners having to subsidize the entity by covering a shortfall. I believe the Phillies ownership situation at present would be a state of economic loss rather than real loss. I think if it got to the state of real loss the current crew would sell out and there would be a new ownership group. I hope these distinctions can be kept in mind as some who might read may not understand these distinctions.
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Alfredo Simon- taken under Alfredo Simon in Rule 5 draft, didn't know about the other part.
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Re: the plan of dismantling the roster losing, etc. to rake in a higher draft pick plan , above by various posters. Sounds like a plan already put into practice in the town of Philadelphia, by the noted general manager of the Philadelphia 76'ers- Sam Hinkie. It involves shedding salary by trading somewhat productive players for assets with no value in the upcoming season, but for future seasons. ( I believe the Jimmy Rollins trade is a prime example, also Bastardo) Using inexperienced players in key spots- not for immediate wins but to see if some future role players can be developed. Tolerating losses in hopes of securing a higher draft pick. And putting off spending money on personnel acquisition until some unspecified future date. Maybe that is what is meant by THE PLAN,..........THE HINKIE PLAN.
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Re: The who taken who not summary above The one I looked over sometime back: in the 5th or 6th round Matt Rizzotti, and the pick immediately after that Anthony Rizzo. Both 1B, both LH Hitters. If they really went for "toolsy" types (HS), I think they could have went Rizzo. Rizzotti, a college pick with good numbers (at Manhattan-quality of competition I don't know) seems more of a "Moneyball" pick. Maybe it was not always a toolsy over skills thing, Maybe there's an element of just plain cheapness.
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Re: the Friedman/Zaidi reference above: If you notice the results of the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft, you might see that the Friedman/Zaidi combination made 4 selections to take free shots at free and clear players, including one Peter Lavin. eh?, eh?
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Phillibuster, BAP, et. al. Just to clear up some technicalities and explore some stuff: those 3 players were not selected in the MLB portion of the Rule 5 draft, they were selected in the minor league portion. According to today's "paper" (Gelb, I believe) they received 12,000 dollars each for a total of 36,000 dollars. I erroneously said 25,000 dollars apiece , before. The acquiring team is under no obligation to keep them at any level or to return them at any time. The rules on roster limits for the Rule 5 draft are: MLB 40 man AAA 38 man AA 37 man The players Phillies lost were really selected by the other teams AAA squad off of the Phillies AA (Reading) roster. I believe if you check out the total number of players with the requisite service time in the entire organization, it will be far less than 78 (MLB and AAA combined) . So, I say there would not be a finite number of spots, but, they could have protected whoever they wanted. So, simply they put them up for sale. Regardless if they are legitimate MLB prospects or not, it seems they will need minor league players and not just prospects, and, remember, other teams wanted them. So, given the purported need for players in Philly's minor league system, and the established fact that other teams deemed them worthy of a minor league spot, the question is: WHY?
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If I might continue something from the previous page, BAP states that the reason that K.Simon, D.Francisco, and P.Lavin were selected by other teams partly because of only having 40 man roster spots to protect them.. Actually they had 78 roster spots to protect them on. They had the MLB 40 man roster and the AAA 38 man roster, as they were taken in the minor league portion of the Rule 5 draft. And only players with the time in service to be selected in the Rule 5 Draft needed to be protected on any roster. I did not look, but I am fairly certain they could have, at least , protected every eligible player on either the MLB, or AAA roster, as most every team could most every year. So, they simply decided to put these players up for sale, and, I believe they got 25,000 a piece for them. So, with the purported player shortage in the minor league system, why do they put guys deemed worthy of selection by other teams on the discard pile? I have seen nothing that said these guys were malcontents. Is this a mountain out of a molehill?
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If it is true that all Philly gets for J-Roll is Zac Eflin and Tom Windle, then it appears to me that neither needs to go on the 40 man roster. If they would have hurried up and approved that deal, they could have made a 3rd selection in the Rule 5 draft. They could have had another guy for next season's roster. Looks like another missed opportunity. Pancho Herrera started out as a Second Baseman and ate his way to First Base.
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More on Adrubal Herrera, Jason Stark tweet says Philly plans to use as CF, could easily start in CF, or words to that effect. And it's Pancho Herrera , and he started as a Second Baseman.
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I'll say something good about the 2 picks. Herrera played lots of games at SS. The Batting Average and On Base Percentage are in the higher range and reflected in the stats. If he can play some 2B , fill at SS, some OF, LH bat, that should get them through the year. What do you want a starter from the rule 5 draft as a position player? Andy Oliver, LHP, was a starter until the previous year and then was the closer in PGH's organization team. If I remember this exactly, 5 seasons at AAA, 508 IP, and 522 Strikeouts. Walks---. I say he's worth a try as a starter. Not a bad return for players other organizations did not choose to protect on the 40 man roster. The thing to be questioned in the 78 protected spots Philly did not think some players were worthy of and other teams did/ \ Kyle Simon, RHP, Delvi Francisco RHP, Peter Lavin OF snapped up, and maybe more, as the feed conked out in the middle. Don't know if this is a bad mistake, or any kind of a mistake, Seems odd that a team which many believe is severely lacking in the minor leagues would leave 3 or More unprotected when other teams snapped them up, and then make no selections for their own openings.
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Read the prospect evaluations, realize the opposite is true.
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More than one poster above referenced the return of one good prospect in the Hunter Pence to San Francisco trade. I recall it differently. I recall it as getting zero good prospects, or prospects period, in return.
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Here's a thought, Dave, irked at being checked out of the decision making dictatorship of yore, makes a call to his buddy, Bud, and puts the kai-bosh on the deal, hoping to keep the old gang together. Cause, fact is, other trades have been made before and since with teams eating money involved and the players were known right off.
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re: G. Cecchini v. D. Marrero Now, if comparing a SS to a SS, maybe. Player for player one might want a Right Handed Hitter vs. a Left Handed Hitter, but with Ceccini being the (I believe 3 years) younger , I would go Ceccini. Also, the positional thing, some may want to know that the G. Ceccini of the Red Sox has played mostly all 3B and LF, while his brother the G. Ceccini of the Mets has been the SS. Maybe they can have somebody trade for the Mets guy and get them both.
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Above I see someone (don't remember who) ask if they are the only one who thinks a re-signing of Kyle Kendrick is imminent (possible maybe). Well, if you check Tal's articles, the last couple have featured a thumping of the tub for just that. Also, the Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez article was really about the upcoming season's role for Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez which was postulated as the 5th starter (though the commentary on that somehow got sidetracked by a minor dispute). So, Phillies rotation-wise You got 5 guys Hamels (or a trade-obtained reasonable facsimile) Cliff Lee, David Buchanan, Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez, and Jerome Williams, and the advocated re-signing of Kyle Kendrick would be all the augmentation they require. Even so , they can further augment with various vastly inexperienced, rehabbing , and recently performance challenged candidates. So, see, nothing to worry about. See, it's all perfectly normal.
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re: Jack Zdurdniak (or however you spell his name, or what it is , I guess). Do you know who Jack took over for in Seattle? It was one of the major architects of the current Phillies roster and minor league system, Assistant General Manager, Benny Looper. I know this , partly, because I followed Jack's hiring as Seattle GM, for some reason, so I read some of the Seattle blogs and all. All I can remember them saying at the thought of Benny's dismissal was a lot of offers to drive him to the airport. I believe the reason the Phillies were ready to jump so quickly in the Cliff Lee to Seattle trade, was Benny's first hand knowledge of the Seattle minor league system. I believe Benny jumped up on the table to recommend the acquiring of Phillippe Aumont, J.C. Ramirez, and Tyson Gillies. I am going to blame that on him.
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Spoiler for Tal"s article. It's about Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez. You remember him? He was the guy who the Phillies were originally willing to pay more than they were willing to for Yoenis Cespedes, Yasiel Puig , or Jorge Soler. Then they discovered he was injured and approximately halved the money and Years. In the article , Tal reveals it was really a cleverly conceived ruse, designed to flush the big money competitors out of the market, and get Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez at a reduced rate.
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On the trade of Cole Hamels to Boston with a non-top-of-the-line lead piece question. I would go: Jackie Bradley Jr., Garin Ceccinni , Christian Vasquez, (in lieu of Devin Marrero I would substitute) Sean Coyle, and I would also add in the where-there's-smoke-there's-fire Pitcher Matt Barnes. I believe to get Vasquez they would have to include Carlos Ruiz from the Philly end, and that would also cancel out the Von Hayes 5-for-1 curse. I believe that might be all right as a fall-back option , as of now, because I estimate doing that would put Philly some 69 million dollars beneath last season's opening day payroll amount, so they could stop poor mouthing about Yasmany Tomas , and pay up. Because that is really the only hope for laying in any foundation of anything resembling a future core that will amount to anything without much further reconstruction. Yeah, would do that as a fallback, but I think the time is right for adding Mookie Betts to the deal, as something more than wishful fantasy. The way I see Boston's relevant part of line-up. Napoli 1B, Ortiz 1B/DH, Pedroia 2B, Bogaerts SS, Sandoval 3B, Ramirez to LF ( and this is right and understandable as anyone who can play SS can play any other position, Ramirez hits like a corner OF, and has become a good-hit-no-field SS. ) Now the question for Boston now becomes the CF and RF. Candidates may Be: Yoenis Cespedes, Rusney Castillo, Mookie Betts, Shane Victorino, Brock Holt (also INF) Allan Craig (also 1B) Daniel Nava, Bryce Brentz, and possibly others. Now, if you go by perceived bests for CF and RF, you might go Castillo and Betts , there. I don't think that would fit into the more power based rest of line-up. It would seem unusual to trade Castillo , since he was only recently signed, and to do so, might damage their reputation with other future foreign and domestic Free Agents. So, I am beginning to think they might trade Betts , even though before I did not think so. In order to facilitate the trade with Betts in it, they may have to take back Victorino and his $13 million a year in compensation. That should do so, in order to get Betts back as a return. So, they should add Betts and Victorino to the stalwarts I listed above, and do that 9 player trade. Maybe they call it the old-7-for-2-trade some day. I least I would do that , if afforded the opportunity.
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