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bonehead: can't argue that about Amaro doing a great job with Hernandez, regardless if Valentin/Arano end up being contributors. He could have pressed it. re-sign him, and do it all over again.
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This is how smart beerleaguer was. The day the phillies were eliminated from the 2006 playoffs: I agree completely about Gillick bearing ultimate responsibility. What I DON'T want to see is Ruben Amaro as GM. Unfortunately I don't think this team will ever be a perennial playoff contender until this ownership group decides to sell. Until then we'll see more of the same "loyalty" crap that gives us an unqualified third-base coach, a minor-league pitching coach and a farm system full of 27-year-olds. Bright young GM candidates are a dime a dozen these days, and they're "grooming" Ruben Amaro for the job? I'd be rolling on the floor laughing if I wasn't crying in frustration. Posted by: Alby | Sunday, October 01, 2006 at 09:28 PM Alby: I often wake up in terror in the middle of the night from a recurring Ruben Amaro Jr. as GM nightmare. He makes Ed Wade appear highly competent and full of charisma. I'll hold judgement on Gillick until next season, but he seems to be falling into the Phillies corporate line. He went from pronouncing that '07 payroll would be in the same range as '06 to stating that he (paraphrasing)"wants to get good value before he spends the fans money". The fans money? LOL I sure hope I'm misinterpreting what I hear. Posted by: voice of reason | Sunday, October 01, 2006 at 09:43 PM
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tti: I still check in about once every 2-3 weeks. For the first time in months, I saw an intriguing thought - the topic of the seahawks throwing a goalline int leading to the question of what the worst phils manager decision in recent memory was. Thought i'd share my opinion. Its always good to check back 3-4 years in the past to see how full of shit and stupid clout's assertions end up playing out. Every real thought and belief he shared were/are often wrong. They were rare, as most of his posts were characterizations of a bogus premise that he accused the whole blog of sharing, and then denouncing it. But those few times were he actually tried to lend his opinion and insight, it ended up being garbage.
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also, clout was a staunch supporter of letting Blanton and Oswalt pitch. He is a dope.
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Yes, because the ahole phillies pitched a lame 2011 Roy Oswalt instead of Roy Halladay.
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worst coaching decision of recent Phils, in terms of magnitude, would be for them to not let their aces pitch on short rest, specifically Roy Halladay. Fucking Joe Blanton started in the 2010 NLCS. Typical idiot 'playing the game the right way' thinking.
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Both Brain Bogusevic and Xavier Paul are better than Francouer.
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sounds like its Lively plus more. I'd guess they ate about half ($8M). Seems like a pretty fair return. Eflin Lively Windle should all be AA starters this year. Add in Nola and Biddle, thats a pretty worthwhile milb rotation.
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TTI: Care to extend our bet on Galvis from 2014 to 2015? If he is qualifies this year, he'll have the worst OBP in the league. i forget the terms, but am open to work out something.
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bap: Myers trade value based on what Tampa received, doesn't even hold a candle to Cole Hamels. Tampa got Steve Souza (26 yr prospect), Rene Rivera (31yr old catcher with only good year), 3 C level prospects. And they actually added pieces to Wil Myers. Would you consider that as a starter for a Hamels negotiation? Doesn't even start the convo to me.
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Nick Punto released. I sure hope the stats/IT intern dude put a filter on Amaro's laptop so he doesn't see that, or I think we know our next signing.
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Padres couldn't get Hamels if they tried, I don't think. Just moved most of their valuable pieces, specifically Grandl. Renfroe, Wisler are nice pieces, but certainly can't get Hamels and the assumed salary relief they'd require.
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back in june. was actually before the Padres search started, where both Preller and Ng ended as finalist. http://www.thegoodphight.com/2014/6/10/5796342/search-for-amaros-successor
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Thank you to epicurean for the TGP post or I wouldn't have known about the shortcut. I wrote about a 4-5 paragraph post on how the Phillies should bring in AJ Preller, but it was mainly due to his success in the int'l scouting markets. didn't know he was a trade maniac too.
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BA named their Phillie top 10. Crawford Nola Franco Quinn Tocci Aaron Brown Imhof Valentin Mecias Franklyn Kilome BA loves their tools to have Tocci still #5. I'd have to assume Windle and Eflin are likley on that list if the trade was completed.
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I'm looking for boom or bust type guys because of how void this org is. Lee at least a plus fastball/curve combo to get excited about if he can put it together. Adding potential back end guys like Eflin isn't going to help turn this around even if he has the better shot to find a way to become an innings eater one day.
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I have seen the Rangers listed at MLBTR here and there as teams interested in Hamels, but havent really seen anything specific. Gallo would be obvious prize. Oder Profar Alfaro..plenty of pieces to make it happen.
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The original rumors were Zach Lee. I hope the kemp trade fouls up, and we end up with him instead of Eflin.
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meant to mention above that Melky going to Whitesox is good because it leaves the Orioles, Mariners, Royals as still in need.
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Melky to the Whitesox is a nice move for the Marlon Byrd market. Mike Morse is probably the only better power hitter in FA left, and Byrd has a pretty considerable advantage over him in as a defensive OF since Morse is borderline Cant Play. If the Phils could move Byrd, I think it leaves an opening to after a high risk/reward option like Colby Rasmus. I don't think it's take that much more than Byrd's remaining commitment. He has a chance to be a waste, but that really shouldn't concern us as a last place team, and should only focus on the chance he returns to his potential. And at 28, its a possibility he could even have a role down the road.
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While the Phillies surely don't care about WAR, the last 10 years of drafting isn't an example of a situation where certain stats can be cherry picked and show that they weren't the worst team in the league over the span of time. And if there was some ridiculously deep digging one sided stat that somehow produced a metric that put the Phillies' draft classes anywhere but dead-last, the person who figured it out would be way too skilled in baseball analytics to have a tie to the organization anyway.
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I would do a Revere/Wellington swap well before one for Wood. As already stated, Wood borders on nontender status, there's 0 trade value there. I'm not sure I'd do either however, I'm more optimistic on Revere than most.
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Very good article JW references about how the Phillies went from #1 in the MLB during their late 90's early 00's drafts in terms of WAR produced, to incredibly so far in dead last from 04-forward.
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