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Yup but the reality is jay-z is amusement to these people much like a clown is at a kids party. Let's keep in mind white people of power and riches didn't build their empires on fake cocaine trafficking stories like jay-z did i've said this before..the moment Jay-z or those people leave the venue he's laughed at by them. Powerful people like celebrities yes do they hold them and consider them as equals? Not in a million years.
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Stop calling rappers businessmen..captitalists yes? All rapper did was copy what nba players have been doing for decades..license out your name. None of these dudes are businessmen..I could think of ten business questions right now these dudes can't answer. It's time folks give chris lighty his props for making 50 rich..vitamin water..chris lighty brought it to the table said invest your money here..New vitamin line...who made that happen? Chris Lighty..I suggest you go back and look at an interview chris lighty did around 2000 when speaking about LL Cool J and how he was gonna make him $200 million. Same goes for Jay, Diddy, etc. If you have a liquor company, or a brand clothing line it's easier to make it popular if you associate it with a celebrity. Example? Jay-z's 40/40 club...in court documents Jay's own lawyers said "He's just the face of the business" and "The two other co-owners approached Mr. Carter's managers with an opportunity"...all jay-z invested in that was bringing the cameras around and shouting it out in interviews. When you say businessman talk to me about guys like robert johnson..that's a businessman.
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How you figure that? Even a pimp is nice to the hoes once in a blue..if Jay-z couldn't make another dime in his life from Wale I can guarantee you Wale wouldn't be able to get within 30 feet of Jay much less even get his phone calls answered..you say nigga make him out to be? Or niggas just being honest about the nigga? It's like the michael jackson situation..the first time you heard allegations..you were like nah...and then another..less people were like nah...then another then people were like ok shit is just not right. Folks really put Jay-Z on a pedestal because he's the most progressive pop culture icon from within the urban community..problem is Jay-Z wouldn't wipe his ass with the toilet paper in your bathroom and this ideal the man represents you is bullshit..The most real shit i've ever heard is "If success and money haven't changed you..then you aren't rich and successful enough yet.."
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It costs you 50 stacks to get your song on hot 97.1! How do I know..that's what i've been asked to pay twice on two projects and said hell nah! That is unless one of their dj's is doing your parties or is your tour dj.
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The only people in the world that believe Jay-Z was a hustler are urban folks..he sold himself as that so of course it's gotta be true..smh. Jay may have hung out with folks who were doing their thing that doesn't make him that..hell carmelo anthony has a goon squad of shotters doesn't make him a goon. I really wish Jay had been honest about his life because what he's achieved is great but what he coudl've achieved with out the crack dealer, heroin pusher fairy tale he sold has hurt and limited that success I do believe without that backstory jay would've been a billionaire by now. There's a reason jay-z became the chosen one by the execs..he wasn't that street dude he claimed to be.
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Co sign with the first two or three lines of that post.
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GTFOH...we've been fighting in africa for decades and more so in the last decade because of it's ties to terrorism..look at the bush sr presidency on down and you'll see we've been fighting libya for a long time..I really hate uneducated assholes like this guy.
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Ummm dude Clinton left us the largest surplus in cash in america's history..so how exactly did Clinton have a hand in a bad economy. We went from negative to plus under clinton..under bush went from plus to negative and under the stop obama plan the republicans have pushed us to the brink of collapse. The fact is the housing bills is such as small fraction of the problem its laughable..just the tax exemption that bush passed has cost this country over a trillion dollars in 4 1/2 years..that's a trillion dollars..do you know we could run this countries basic needs for a year with a trillion bucks. Now add two wars bush started that cost 80 billion a month...the entire housing collapse cost us 127 billion dollars meaning we spend more than that in two months of war. So if you are going to blame obama make sure you actually blame the people who put him in the position for you to bash him as they are the actual responsible parties for this cluster fuck. I really think you need to go and look at the public records of what bills have been past in the last 20 years and who passed what that benefits your life and who's passed what to fuck that up for you. Also explain to me how it was obama's fault our credit rating dropped..you want a perfect example of the stop obama plan..look at how the republicans waited an extra 3 days to approve a bill they complained about and fucked up our credit rating as a nation..same bill passes three days late but it's not sabotage?
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Yeah and guess who's left behind? The republicans who dominate the votes that pass bills in this country..you think the republicans are passing the bills Obama sets up to fix shit? Nope...they don't. Yes it's his economy now but again how can you fix something if someone keeps stealing your tools..the republicans just held unemployment benefits bills hostage to get a bill passed that protected the guys who donate to their political campaigns. That means Joe Doe can't feed his kids because the republicans want to take care of their golf buddies but that's obama's fault to I guess. The presidency of the country is not like being a CEO where you have final say..the only time the president has that power is to veto a bill or go to war...doesn't mean the shit he wants done gets done because he says do it. I think that's the part of it all that escapes people.
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You do know bush was responsible for the first bailout right? Meaning he was the fucking president when the economy started turning to shit..wake the fuck up. If you stated "i'm going to run a hundred yards" and I put a 1000 pound ball attached to your leg..is it your fault you couldn't complete your 100 yard run? I hope me putting it in idiot terms it'll finally get through.
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Thank you for posting this..we urbanites love to think we understand politics...politics is a tangled web with two sides..the side with the most people in office is the side that controls america and it's president. Any person of color in this country that can't see through the republican smoke and mirrors is a complete and utter fucking moron and from what i've seen on this thread there's a ton right here. 1. Bush passed a tax exemption for companies with headquarters outside of the U.S. wonder why everytime you call a company you get an indian dude named bob on the phone? It's saving companies billions..those are jobs uneducated americans normally would have an option to do.. 2. Republicans believe in no social programs, limit on education spending, limits on health care..Obama is pro all those things so of course he can't get shit past they control the final vote on his bills. 3. As stated above there has been an openly admitted agreement to derail Obama's image and record... Mofo's love to talk about illuminati and bullshit but here's an openly admitted to conspiracy right in your fucking faces but no let's blame one of ours because of course we have a history of being welcomed with open arms when we've caused change in history. If they let Obama do everything he wants he'll be one of the best presidents in history and he's black so we can't have that as a country..fuck up his presidency and in all likelihood they won't have to worry about another liberal black candidate for 50 years.
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1st. There is nothing more hilarious than a group of broke ass mofo's online talking about some rich dude being irrelevant. 2nd. Cam is not lying and dame dash even before he fell off said it "Cam and dipset are the best acquisition rocafella ever had". Hell folks forget Cam'Ron was the President of Rocafella..so clearly the nigga knows the game pretty well. 3rd. People want to compare Cam'Ron to Jay-z and bash cam but forget cam didn't have Russell Simmons and Lyor Cohen hand holding him through his career. I'll say this again without Dame pulling jay-z out of relativity like he did with his own dollars you'd likely not heard of Jay-z past that single in 1987. Without Lyor Cohen Jay-z would've put out 3 albums and been done like the majority of rappers in history. 4. Don't believe me...look at the when the pictures of Jay-z partying with Lyor started surfacing and when Jay's record sales exploded. This is simple to explain even to a moron..the industry needed a representative that the pop public could digest..it couldn't be a thug it had to be someone with charm and charisma..it just so happened jay-z was at the right place in his life at the right time...Jay-z had lyor who had Russell, biggie had diddy who had Clive Davis, 50 cent had eminem who had dre and iovine, Kanye had dame who had Jay-z..anyone else seeing the pattern to blowing up in hip hop? For the record those of you calling cam wack..remember it was Biggie who got him on Undeas which he was a partner in with Lance Un Rivera..who's better remembered for allegedly being stabbed by jay-z (Jay took the rap but he was forced too...see the story of haitian jack and company for more details on that).
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Controversy is how these guys grab headlines..all the music Pusha been a part of in the last two years and the only time he's buzzed is during controversial times..consequence and now this..
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Pusha T is a rapper not an emcee..sorry to break it to ya but that dude is not an emcee..Krs was an emcee, rakim was an emcee, jay-z at one point was an emcee..Pusha T is one dimensional which makes him a rapper.
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1. Niggas call Kanye West top 5 but why? Not because of his rhymes but because the nigga considered cool and made it ok to wear women's clothing..not cause the nigga lyrically superior to anybody.. If you like someone you like em regardless how corny they are. 2. What was considered lyrical in the 90's is several levels above what's considered lyrical today..the bar has been lowered and therefore talking about being cool is now the standard for being lyrical. 3. The shit jay-z spits today would've gotten his career deaded in the 90's quick fast again the bar has been lowered. 4. The fact wayne has even been in the discussion of greatest shows the bar has indeed been lowered to the fucking floor. 5. Young niggas don't know what the fuck music is..all they toss around is "this ain't the 80's" well lil niggas what you listening to these days ain't hip hop..jay-z ain't been hip-hop in a longgggg time..these niggas are glorified pop artists who just can't sing otherwise they'd be pullling a drake on your fags. 6. Big L would shit on anyone you consider top 5 today..Kool G rap would still shit on anybody you consider top 5 today..Nas still shits on every nigga you have in your top 5...KRs1 still shits on anybody in your top 5. 7. 99% of the niggas rapping today can't tell a story in rhyme to save their fucking lives. 8. Real hip hop heads don't consider music about cars, hoes, and jewelry to be hip hop. 9. If you wearing jeggings, mohawks, dyed your hair, skateboard or otherwise you are not hip hop. 10. Out of the 100 or so young niggas on the come up ain't but 3 actual spitters..
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So just because you don't like C4 makes wtt the shit? That's some way other side ignorant shit..even niggas in NY are now calling jay-z washed up..I know i'm one of them.
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And eminem and T.I. who always sell within the same parameter of units..smh. Mad cause jay isn't top dog anymore?
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Stop drinking the kool aid..jay-z fell the fuck off and Kanye if he wasn't jay's lil man wouldn't be considered top 5 spitters on nobody's list...that nigga kanye is pure fucking garbage..
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Thank you, someone else who isn't drinking the Jay-z kool aid. The dude is wayyyy washed up.
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He's not on def jam dude and also billboard and hits daily caught on to the numbers rigging game started by Def Jam..Def Jam secured #1's for it's top 3 artists everytime they dropped over the past ten years and that includes jay-z who has the weirdest sales patterns ever..no jay-z album has sold more than 55% less the following week of a debut..Wayne has a white fan base because he doesn't play the black power shit jay-z has been on for a few years now. If you look at who jay-z has beaten for more then half his #1's you'll understand what i'm saying about him and D.J. The reason 50 fell off is the moment he started making pop songs with justin timberlake.
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I'm not gonna sit here and hate but it's funny how they credit jay,50,and diddy with being these monster businessmen when they in actuality 1. Don't have the education to even delve into business or business ideas like that. 2. Don't give credit to guys like chris lighty and mike francis and dame dash who are responsible for a humongous chunk of these guys financial worth. 3. Say this is gross take home before paying off managers, attorneys, uncle sam, other expenses. These guys either yes or no a deal based on how their money men present it to them..Chris lighty is the man who told 50 to turn down the endorsement deal of $1 million from vitamin water and instead take a percentage of the company stake. Dame got jay-z off relativity records on a james brown lifelong contract formed rocafella the brand by himself and used jay-z as anchor much like ciroc has gone and done with diddy. Lebron james is out earning everyonen on that list...does that mean he's a the smartest businessman on earth? Nope he's got a good team of ppl making him money is all.
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What prodigy is saying jay-z is so disconnected from his people that he's refused to use his money and influence to change anything. What happened during Katrina? He sent a million dollar check..not saying it's not a good thing but that million dollar check did less for Katrina than what kanye did on tv. This goes back to the old addage of mofo's forgetting where they are from until it's time to re-certify the ghetto stamp. In his 15 or so years of being the top dog jay's done two block parties for marcy and that's it. How about a community center? How about some scholarships? How about an economic advice center? He's not forced to do it because people give him a pass on it, the games certainly changed. 20 years ago you could not and would not get a pass in your hood for coming up and forgetting about it. It's all good tho, he's not forced to he doesn't have to but it would certainly do a lot for kids who ain't got a pot to piss to say this is one of us, he came up and he's showing us we can to. Instead they get to hear non stop millionaire rich dellusional nigga rap from him.
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Fuck is you talking about? Scared of Jay-Z's former isreali intelligence security? GTFOH..this is the same jay-z that was able to pop all that shit on records about being a hustler because of someone from BK named Solomon..same jay-z who had his pockets ransacked like a bitch by the haitians from brooklyn for nearly a decade before supreme and them went to jail. You mean that crazy gangster ass nigga named jay? If so here's a bit of a lesson for you, jay-z was a local celebrity because of jaz-o so he got to hung out with drug dealers then turned around and started living their life on wax. Real niggas from Marcy who ain't drinking the roc kool aid will tell you that themselves. This is the same jay-z that wanted to piss himself in a club when pu (RIP) and fat joe stepped to him strapped. I always laugh at folks thinking jay-z was ever some hard dude. This nigga has been being taken care of since he was 12..he's the rap equivalent of a dude in the hood with real hoop skills..the hustlers will take care of him so he don't get caught up in the streets. You wanted the truth and there you have it but I bet you he ain't put that truth in "Decoded" cause of course he's gotta protect this image he built.
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SMH we are quoting the leader of the gay hip hop movement? Russell just come out, and pull tyler perry out the closet with you, as well as oprah and latifah..you ain't fooling nobody.
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Thank you..both rihanna and alicia keys are the reason his last album sold without them two singles and them hooks all he would've only had DOA which in my opinion was and is still one of the most mediocre fluffer line songs he's ever made.
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