I can't agree more the amount of van on UK roads must be stagering i for one think that city driving is probable the worst sort of driving ever just that amount of stopping and starting and than there's the different mpg conversion which absolutely horrid compared with motor way driving why people in Britain can fall so far behind the rest of the world in implement other alternatives like hydro fuel and even lpg conversions would be temp alternative solutions still you cant teach an old dog new tricks i guess this is just my observation and i'm driving a van most day's in the week see http://gottavan.co.uk