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"Damn you, entropy!"
I heard a rumor that that had happened. Unfortunately, Hell was destroyed by heat death soon after.
PIOMAS September 2012
One week after an early release of data that confirmed that the minimum sea ice volume record had been broken, there is another PIOMAS update. Here is the latest Arctic sea ice volume graph as calculated by the Pan-Arctic Ice Ocean Modeling and Assimilation System (PIOMAS) at the Polar Science C...
"Judith Curry is another case altogether, where she gets the idea that the ice will recover earlier is beyond my wildest imagination."
She was seriously off that day. That whole "Week in Review" was a tour de force of cognitive dissonance. I'm afraid there's no getting around the realization that one of our few scientifically trained "skeptics" is on the Confirmation Bias Express to Goddardtown.
Joe Bastardi found a cherry
Now that fake skeptics have dropped the IMS sea ice extent chart to call the results of this stunning melting season into question, Joe Bastardi comes up with another try (hat-tip to Chris Biscan) to imply that the melting season is over, something that is wanted so desperately by fake skeptics ...
idiot tracker, thanks! I did deal briefly with methane--which others would you have liked to have had high-lighted? Other aspects of the methane feedback, such as increased microbial metabolism? Wildfire-released CO2, perhaps? Something else? There are more articles to be written, and I will gladly steal any ideas you leave lying around...
;-)
You did mention the methane, and I should have been more clear as to what I was thinking of. It's the influence of the open water on the arctic coastline. That makes the sea ice a player in the larger game of the destabilization of the carbon sinks in the Arctic. I'm sure you saw the Yedoma article, which was all over Twitter:
http://phys.org/news/2012-08-carbon-collapsing-coastal-permafrost-arctic.html
"Coastal Yedoma is likely more vulnerable towards carbon release than other permafrost bodies as it is not only subject to thermal collapse from above but also to enhanced wave and wind erosion of the Yedoma-dominated coast brought on by sea-level rise and longer ice-free seasons," explains Örjan Gustafsson, professor of biogeochemistry at Stockholm University and co-leader of the team with Igor Semiletov of the University of Alaska, Fairbanks and the Russian Academy of Sciences.
Another Yedoma article:
http://www.bitsofscience.org/siberian-arctic-yedoma-permafrost-carbon-release-6213/
The research group, which was led by Stockholm University, has calculated that the coastal Yedoma erosion currently destabilises around 44 megatonnes of the ice age carbon per year – ten times as much as previously thought – and that about two thirds of this end up as CO2 in the atmosphere, translating to annual CO2 emissions of about 0.165 gigatonnes*.
That's roughly the same as Pakistan's current emissions. And that's today, not decades from now. 0.5% of human emissions in 2012. In 2020? There's a story there, I would think, and the ice is a part of it.
Methane and carbon dioxide both are going to be emerging from the Arctic and the neighboring north. You mentioned some of the ways the Arctic sea ice contributes to this:
* methyl hydrates
* wildfires
* increased microbial metabolism (peat bogs, etc.)
To which I would add:
* Warming the coasts
* Increased erosion of permafrost-laden coastline
* Changes in the jet stream, resulting in more persistent and more extreme weather patterns, contributing to most of the above processes and the destabilization of land permafrost as well.
For an attempt at the big picture, there's a recent study: http://theidiottracker.blogspot.com/2012/09/permafrost-carbon-feedback-update.html.
The numbers are eye-popping.
Sea ice loss 2012: what do the records mean?
A lot of good stuff coming out lately. First of all this one hour programme on Radio Ecoshock with Jennifer Francis, Mark Serreze and Cecilia Bitz, which I highly recommend, especially the first interview with Dr. Jennifer Francis: Arctic Meltdown, Scientists Speak Out For the people who weren't...
Boa05att, +1 for Kevin's comments.
There's no "moving on" from the primary research.
We don't, and won't, know everything that is going to happen and when it will happen. That's science for you. Our understanding will improve. Right now we know plenty to know we're in trouble. So the science has done the job that policymakers and the public need it to do.
Sea ice loss 2012: what do the records mean?
A lot of good stuff coming out lately. First of all this one hour programme on Radio Ecoshock with Jennifer Francis, Mark Serreze and Cecilia Bitz, which I highly recommend, especially the first interview with Dr. Jennifer Francis: Arctic Meltdown, Scientists Speak Out For the people who weren't...
Great article. The only thing I would have included as well is some discussion of the carbon cycle feedbacks being thrown into gear by the Arctic warming.
Sea ice loss 2012: what do the records mean?
A lot of good stuff coming out lately. First of all this one hour programme on Radio Ecoshock with Jennifer Francis, Mark Serreze and Cecilia Bitz, which I highly recommend, especially the first interview with Dr. Jennifer Francis: Arctic Meltdown, Scientists Speak Out For the people who weren't...
Interesting papers, guys. I framed them a little with stuff that is apt to be old news to the crowd here and made a post of it:
http://bit.ly/wgA1iR
On the fringes
2011 is coming to an end, which means we're halfway through the Arctic winter. The sea ice is thickening up nicely everywhere in the Arctic interior, but things aren't progressing as uniformly at the edges. Just like last year we see an above average ice cover in some regions, but a very slow fr...
"I have also been wondering if the release of methane could actually affect weather patterns"
Absolutely yes. Atmospheric methane affects cloud cover, along with ozone levels. I'm working my way through this primer:
"Atmospheric Methane: Trends and Impacts"
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.atmosresearch.com%2FNCGG2a%25202002.pdf&ei=nKDzTt29NaL40gG90smCAg&usg=AFQjCNF5_rK1NoIhDIeRkqQeLyRQ3Co5yw&sig2=UmADlhMXqTTwPpfnWrjxcg
Money quote:
"As discussed earlier, increasing water vapor from methane could be leading to an increased amount of polar stratospheric clouds. Ramanathan (1988) notes that both water and ice clouds, when formed at cold lower stratospheric temperatures, are extremely efficient in enhancing the atmospheric greenhouse effect. He also notes that there is a distinct possibility that large increases in future methane may lead to a surface warming that increases nonlinearly with the methane concentration."
See also:
"Archer: Destabilization of Methane Hydrates: A Risk Analysis"
PDF at: http://www.wbgu.de/fileadmin/templates/dateien/veroeffentlichungen/sondergutachten/sn2006/wbgu_sn2006_ex01.pdf
Arctic methane: Russian researchers report
I vowed not to talk about this because it literally makes me sick to my stomach, but it's too important to deny. We all know about the vast deposits of methane clathrates on the Siberian continental shelf. They are kept in place by pressure and low temperatures. However, the temperatures (SAT as...
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