Ann: so I've heard, but please don't get me started on that topic. This excerpt from Camus caught my attention in part because I've been reading, in Berdyaev and other Orthodox writers, about "deification" ; while I find that idea fascinating and even inspiring, in the end I'm with Camus--we're better off if we just stick to being human.

Ann: thanks for the input. As should be obvious, I continue to flail, to thrash, and to flounder at the very idea of spirituality. "The spirit" seems to me to be mysterious, and I am simultaneously attracted to and suspicious of "mystery," which I have always held to be (along with patriotism) the last refuge of scoundrels. Despite which, my current correct line of thinking is that world history in the past 200-250 years has been an era of spiritual warfare in which humanity's "yetzer ha-tov" and "yetzer ha-ra" have struggled for dominance; one of our main problems being that, even with the best of intentions, we don't always know which is which.

Thanks, Ann. I'm pretty sure I've almost got it all figured out...maybe by next Tuesday?

Ann--thanks, as always, for the comment. Re "what is it that we have to give?": I don't mean to be flippant, and I am but a humble atheist, but it is my understanding that the Church claims to distribute God directly to believers on a regular basis. What more could it do?

Ann: but I said you can get there in your own way...in point of fact, this is one of the least coherent, least thought-out pieces I've ever posted; I just felt like posting something this morning, and this is what came out.

Thanks, Ann. May your New Year be bright with promise and may your heart be filled with hope...

Oh, I dont actually read them. I just write a little bit about them based on their cover blurbs...

You "disagree"? With "most of this post"? This does not bode well for your spending a congenial week in Missoula. Perhaps you should re-read the post, more carefully this time; I for one find it highly persuasive.

Reverend Markle: I am just getting warmed up on the subject. Won't we have fun conversations about this when I'm in Buffalo!

Mr. Ballor: You did indeed make that connection in your other article at Acton--thanks for pointing it out. Like Alaska, internet archives are a vast and wondrous wilderness; it helps to have a guide when exploring the territory.

Dear Rev. Markle: thank you for your comment but I will not be dissuaded by "facts," especially when promulgated by liberal media like PBS. Everything wrong with this country is traceable to the Sixties, so please don't go blaming poor William McKinley--has he not suffered enough already?

Thanks for the comments, Terry. Have a great New Year's yourself; we will just have to keep muddling along with our lives until the robots put us out of our misery.

Ann: you are indubitably correct, both about the Obama/Holder group and about changing the lawyer joke. Maybe we should put Jared Kushner to work on this?

Nice try, James and Bunni, but I am sworn to secrecy about Dissenting Commenter. The Little Red Blog protects its sources, such as they are.

Thanks, Terry. Of all the various categories in which America leads the world, "Locking people up" is one of which we should be ashamed. I repeat my recent citation of a quote from Jon Langford--Americans are "the most frightened people on earth".

Thanks for your kind comments, ME. I believe that, in the original text of Genesis, Adam was busy watching a football game and therefore he didn't notice when the serpent approached Eve; either that, or he was out playing golf. But perhaps Adam's "liturgical failure" in Eden was mean to prefigure all the failures of male priests ever since.

Oh yeah--I'm just learning now about President Obama's announcement. As for optimism-- I'd say impeachment is all but a certainty after the new Congress takes office. (Also, happy birthday, James!).

Ann: I'm sorry I'm late getting to your post; I rarely check Facebook anymore, so I wasn't aware you were writing here again. In any case, you do sound happy, and that's great to hear. I have some questions: first, why did your car hit a deer? Had the deer offended it in some way? Are you concerned that, in France, your rental car might decide to sideswipe a Black Madonna or two? Finally, since when does Rachel Maddow tell people to watch your blog? That's very impressive; I didn't even realize the two of you knew each other.

Thank you, Rev. Markle. I could not have put it better myself.

Thanks, Ann. You were definitely underpaid monetarily, but hopefully there were other compensations of which Erick Erickson knoweth not. I think I recently posted a quote from Karl Marx to the effect that, under capitalism, the more distasteful and unpleasant the work, the lower the wages. This must explain why men (mostly) who play games for a living (professional sports, that is) are paid outrageous amounts, while men and women who clean and scrub and lift heavy and often unpleasant burdens are paid a pittance. Elizabeth Stoker Bruenig has also written about Erickson's comments (don't tell Cheryl): http://elizabethstokerbruenig.com/2014/09/06/minimum-wage-failure-at-life/

Ann: You know who else thinks Obama needs to work harder? Dick Cheney, that's who. http://news.msn.com/us/obama-taking-less-vacation-but-too-much-for-some How's that for some chutzpah, coming from Mr. "I shot my best friend in the face (but I did not shoot the deputy)"?

I doubt it.

Taking your points in order: (1) I will not argue this point with a graduate of Yale Divinity School; plus, I'm an atheist, so I certainly won't disagree that "religion is mostly about humans". (2) Are you presuming to speak for God? Maybe She really doesn't like science--I hear most girls don't. (3) You must know some very smart people. Finally--I think they're actually Venn diagrams, though I could be wrong (though it would be a first).