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Fr. Jonathan Tobias
Carpatho-Russian Orthodox priest, seminary professor (pastoral theology) ... married with two daughters.
Interests: Dante, Cappadocian Fathers, Mythopoeia, Inklings, Napoleonic and Civil Wars, T. S. Eliot and other English writers, Southern Agrarians
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I should add here, in the case of Orthodox clergy, that what has happened demographically to the evangelical and fundamentalist community should be taken as a forewarning: This is what happens to a religious community when they align themselves with authoritarian and nationalist partisan causes. Too much of the "culture wars" is really oriented toward these causes, and not out of a concern for the righteousness of the Kingdom of God. There is real peril in making these alignments (which some of us clergy seem to have little hesitation in so doing). We Orthodox have centuries of experience with the problem of church-state collusion -- experience that has turned out negatively. And now we're seeing this old historical theme being played out in America before our very eyes.
Toggle Commented Jul 11, 2021 on the cost of partisanship at Second Terrace
Thank you Matt for your response. You are correct that there are "different strands" in the Orthodox community -- and about particulars there always will be, as long as these differences do not contend against "the mind of Christ," which is completely self-sacrificing. You are also correct that in current political parlance, a conservative should want to put less power in the hands of authorities, and liberals would entrust the authorities with more. This is a modern definition, because in Christendom (i.e., Byzantine and Roman Catholic civilization until the early 15th century), the government had quite a bit of power (even over the marketplace), and that government could not be called liberal at all. You suggest that socialism necessitates atheism, and that somehow environmentalism and social/racial justice help bring about socialism and/or atheism. "Socialism" itself is a term that is complicated. In the early 19th century, when socialism came to the fore, you might be interested to know that there were many models of socialism, and many if not most of them were thoroughly Christian. Only a few -- like Marxism, and later Leninism and Stalinism -- were committed to atheism, founded as they were upon the Marxist dialectic of history, along with its eschatology. One other thing -- while most people may not identify themselves as polluters in their own right, many Christians in fact oppose any regulation upon corporations that restrict pollution. They do so because they assume that laissez-faire economic theory must be Christian, when in fact this is not historically the case.
Toggle Commented Jul 20, 2020 on ware the word "liberal" at Second Terrace