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Ahh, one of my favorite steps of deconversion.....learning about the Ugaritic texts.....those were the days! :/
*the heart (pumps blood)
Toggle Commented Apr 6, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
You do realize just pumps blood, right? Stop acting like the heart "thinks". You obviously don't "TRULY" (air quotes) understand biology.
Toggle Commented Apr 6, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
DAMN. Great insight J That distinction DOES exist in his mind only. That's pretty insightful. Who are you to say, Scrubleberm, that what's in his mind isn't in his (non-existent btw) soul? Who made you judge, jury and executioner?
FL, you bring out a wonderful point. If love is more valued than faith, how can god throw some in the deep fryer if that person exhibits "immutable LURV" but doesn't have blind faith?
Toggle Commented Apr 6, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
"His love is immutable" Prove it. I'm just going to give you that your specific flavor of deity exists for sake of argument. Why should I believe that this invisible magician (is that NOT an accurate description?) exhibits immutable love? Why not immutable hatred? That sure would seem to explain the world as we see it better than a being that is more prone to love than hate.
Toggle Commented Apr 6, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Lets just get to the bottom of this fairly quickly. Schmdsbrlsfgbm, do you believe that your god that you worship, as shown in the bible, exhibits "immutable love"? Also, please give us what 'your' definition of "immutable love" is. I think we need to do this just to understand what you're trying to get across, because for many of us, your prose, while it may give believers a tingle that runs up their leg to hear it, to us, is simply loud noise, signifying......very little.
And some of you call me ridiculous. What is the obsession with rape? Have you never heard of the Catholic priest scandal? Christians rape too! PEOPLE rape. PEOPLE love. PEOPLE are kind or malevolent, regardless of their religion or lack thereof. Can you understand that?
^^^Is this English?
"Truly" read the gospels. Wow.
Probably because they listened to, read, and thought about similar hocus pocus for years, and finally realized that trying to find a christian with a logical, proven argument is like chasing a fart in the wind.
I could act more mature and benevolent, sure. I realize it undercuts my personal credibility to an extent when I do so. I struggle with seeing what I perceive as ....ok, not going to say it, in the middle of a "mature" post. But you see where I'm going. I'm sure you know of the phrase "facepalm". I just read these theist posts and I'm like...yeah. But my personal attitude in no way undermines the actual points I'm trying to make. Explain again why I should respect a god that heals an ankle while allowing a rapist to continue raping.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Why can you not get past this notion that I'm (not) arguing against a god? Its on the PEOPLE that support such nonsense.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Ah. The No True Scotsman Logical Fallacy is alive and well. That's comforting. Becoming educated as to the origins of the christian mythos (among many other reasons) is what convinced us it was all as untrue as every other religion that you consider untrue. You're an atheist to every god ever conceived, save one. We just go one god further.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
wait wait wait wait wait..... DG, please tell me I am misunderstanding. Are you implying that since some (unknown) author wrote down on a piece of papyrus that a man born blind was given sight by a prophet/holy man, that this means it ACTUALLY HAPPENED? I need to know if this is what you believe. Just, for me. Obviously, I know you have "faith" that it happened because it's written in the bible. But, surely you're not suggesting that everyone should jump on board and agree that this alleged event is "fact"?
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Oh, and this- even if the ankle was healed, prove that it's not Allah doing the healing. Maybe he just has sympathy for "people of the book" and did it to be nice for a change. Prove it wasn't Zeus. Prove it wasn't Dionysus. You can't.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Darth - even if a TRUE MIRACLE that broke every law of physics happened, the one you're supplying is absolutely insane, and makes this god look like a total nitwit. Save an ankle, but let a child be raped to death. And you gladly serve this?
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Rob- not all humanists are the same. Nice job painting with a broad brush though. I could say the same thing about all christians mandating that that baby to be born, but then not allowing for the basic necessities of life to be provided through welfare, etc. There are christians, and humanists, of very different and varying views. I do believe partial birth abortion is immoral. I also believe shunning, denying rights, and killing homosexuals for an attraction they have no control over is also immoral.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
What matters is whether you left the world in a better place when you're gone. The entire concept of an endless existence is illogical, and without evidence. The authors of the OT were conflicted about whether or not there was an afterlife; some thought there was none; some thought it was some sort of half-existence (Sheol); some thought they were "gathered unto their fathers" (whatever that means). The bible is far from having a concensus on one of the most important attributes of religion- the idea of an afterlife. If its authors cant even agree on that, why should I take anything they say seriously (when its "divine wisdom")
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Darth - still wouldnt make me believe this god was any less of an *expletive* for allowing the things I mentioned and healing the ankle. And no, because I have no way of knowing these x-rays were from the same person. Religious people of all stripes have forged artifacts like that throughout history to try and prove their beliefs. So I'd need something more concrete than that. Robby - " So, if death is the end, then at the end of the day, there is no difference between an Adolph Hitler and a Mother Theresa." Wow. Well, aside from my belief that MT wasn't the saint she was portrayed to be, that just sums up your whole belief system in a nutshell. It doesnt matter if someone saves 1 million lives or kills six million- if theres no afterlife, whats the point? WOW. Yet another reason of many I cannot accept christian "morality". Mother Theresa (or insert any other well known figure of good will) made the world a better place. Maybe that doesnt mean anything to you, but in my view, people doing good things for others actually HAS VALUE. I guess you believe that only what one believes in regard to a deity is the only thing that matters? Actions are irrelevant to daily life?
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Oh, and I'll stop "disrespecting" Christianity the moment it becomes "respectable". Ridiculous ideas should be ridiculed. Childish thought should be put away when one grows into an adult.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
"There is no basis for kindness in the worldview of Humanism". Hm. Since humans are valued above everything else in humanism, I'd say that's a pretty good basis for kindness towards humans.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Its a shame you have zero evidence for that miraculous ankle healing. But, its very comforting to know that a god would heal an ankle, while allowing children to get raped when calling out for him. So nice and sweet... Good god, pretty god....
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog
Atheism is not a religion, or a philosophy, and that's why christians keep fudging this up- its simply a LACK of theistic thought. Nothing more, nothing less. Humanism prefers kindness over cruelty.
Toggle Commented Apr 5, 2013 on What Counts As Evidence? at Stand to Reason Blog