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The anti-black part is this:"The black & multicultural side of this problem is an unwillingness to compete or recognize 'white' advantage in deference to a 'principle' of 'equality' by which they mean equality of results. Thus charges of racism are leveled whenever so-called whites win in competition." That is how he chooses to frame how most Black people think about equality. No, it's not about equality of opportunity (or as close to it as possible), no, the vast majority of Black folk demand equal results because they're too feeble of mind to believe they could ever win on a more level field. Cobb quacks like a phoney, through and through. Cobb purports to be a christian; well christian is as christian does and we'll leave it at that. If he ever reforms, then I'm sure to see him in the fields one day. Otherwise, I don't have the time to waste. God bless you, E.C. Hopkins. I am through with this untested arrogant fool. He serves a role as another weight Black folk must bear and eventually throw off. Were he to keel over in a heart attack tomorrow, another (grayconservative/negrorage?) would rise in his place instantly. What I've at last realized is that he is completely irrelevant. He is another filament in the starry firmament of the Attention Economy; he adds nothing but rancour and distraction from the purpose, from the cause. The real field work done by guys like Hopkins, Spence is all that matters. The rest is nattering and has no bearing on the real work that must be done. In decades to come, the fingerwagging Cobb-of-the-day will try to take credit for the accomplishments of those in the communities. It doesn't matter. Focus on the goal, you're not doing this for the credit. Nevermind these ephemeral distractions. What White folk think does not matter any more -- only the field work. Those of us interested in that toil can network, sharing ideas, techniques, encouragements. Press on, good fellows, we'll meet on the other side.
Toggle Commented Nov 22, 2007 on The First 22 Rules at Cobb
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"The question is whether it is reasonable to believe that black people are more easily offended and that this is part and parcel of being black in America." This question has nothing to do with your original hypothetical, so apparently my density is inversely proportional to your ability to stay on your own point. Cobb, you've obviously a great grasp of grammar and know when to toss in a ten dollar word or thirty dollar phrase, but you grossly lack precision. That critical weakness keeps you barred from the intellectuals' clubhouse. I'm not sure when you're going to finally get that. "I'm at a loss to explain, given my perception of the righteous strength of black national idenity, why so much effort is wasted fighting class three racism against characters like Richards, Imus, Bennett et al." I am at a loss to understand why you spend time tapping into your keyboard, over and over and over (and over, ad nauseum), on subjects which you find piddly. Could you not spare 45 minutes a week out of your Rant at Piddly (RAP) to go help someone in your commmunity? Of course not, for you have no interest in uplift, merely destruction. See, the real question, if you're interested, is to ask what helps construct a lasting sense of dignity and self-worth. What does an average person need to see (and take for granted) as behaviour and aspirations to model? What is the amount and quality of nurturing required to bolster a self-worth strong enough to withstand/shrug off insults? Ask your parents.
Toggle Commented Nov 20, 2007 on Black Proof at Cobb
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"Imagine a plaintiff in the EEOC and he alleges that he has been discriminated against because of his race. By what standard does the court accept the plaintiffs claim that he is black?" I'm no lawyer, this is Ed Hopkins' or Field Negro's balliwick, but is it really a big stretch to come up with ways the plaintiff can make a compelling case that he is Black? Cobb, are you serious that you couldn't go into court and make a case that you can be fairly considered a Black man? What the hell is wrong with you?
Toggle Commented Nov 20, 2007 on Black Proof at Cobb
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Craig, sometimes this stuff, this banter with Cobb, has a palpable pitable quality to it. Sometimes, it isn't really fun at all. I'm kinda gettin the feelin Cobb's still wounded by whatever kerfuffle occured with him getting the boot from that Black Engineers Society (or whatever it was) so many years ago. This crazy fixation he has with "Black Nationalists"...it's discomfiting.
Toggle Commented Nov 20, 2007 on Black Racial Self-Interest at Cobb
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Cobb say:"Black needs to be defined right out of existence for the same reason Negro did. It's too reductive of human experience and has become a degenerate standard of behavior which exhibits the same dynamic as caste." Well, this makes no sense at all. Who said Black is a word to sum up the entirety of one person? That's what racists do. "Blackness," as culture, as race, as however you choose to parse it, is still one component of a person's totality. Anyway, I'll just restate my previous question:Remember the folk whose dignity you were busy defending back in your Boohab daze...yeah, them...have they disappeared, become myths and curious legends like bigfoot, unicorns and the elvish? Do they not still walk/bleed/grieve among us? Why did they exist then but not today?
Toggle Commented Nov 20, 2007 on Black Racial Self-Interest at Cobb
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"The problem is that, nobody has really held black nationalists and the leaders of the black consciousness movements to task on who black people are." I don't get this. How meta do you need to get, Cobb? Why does Black have to be defined right out existence? Remember the folk whose dignity you were busy defending back in your Boohab daze...yeah, them...have they disappeared, become myths and curious legends like bigfoot, unicorns and the elvish? Do they not still walk/bleed/grieve among us? Are the so-called Black Nationalists trying to improve the collective prospects of gnomes or real, living people?
Toggle Commented Nov 19, 2007 on Black Racial Self-Interest at Cobb
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Job that satisfies your ego, keeps family fed, clothed, entertained and reasonably prepared for the future: $200k Offering free assistance (aka volunteering), being a direct, avaialable, engaging Black christian model at a local Boys n Girls Club: priceless.
Toggle Commented Nov 19, 2007 on Black Racial Self-Interest at Cobb
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well, again you go on about scale and how blackfolk (sorry, i still like the term) can't organize on a grand scale. ok. even if that were true, all you're saying is that you like things grand. it doesn't prevent you from going small(er) out of necessity. that is, if you are interested in uplift. spence, nulan, them dudes is out there in the really real. even your brother avery. couldn't you chip off, like, 5% of the time you spend at your desk "writing" and go lead one of them scout troops you were a part of as a kid? even that? somethin'. you old, mike, get with what's haddnin. local is the new black.
Toggle Commented Nov 16, 2007 on The Old School Revisited at Cobb
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so you're positing your version of Old School as simply one branch of Black Nationalism. hm. interesting. you lack compassion for your fellow brothers. forever and always you turn your discussion to jamming those who, even if misguided in your view, are still trying to defend brethren. if the question isn't about who/what is black, then it could be who are your brothers Cobb? and are you about helping your wayward brothers or looking for acceptance from brothers who don't need help? as always, i find most of your bloviation focussed on avoiding (and damning) uplift. "I am defying all political partisans to demonstrate that they provide any infrastructure for progress which cannot be better accomplished by individual initiative in America." typical. on what scale are you talkin? other successful minority groups achieve mainly through local efforts. uplift is local, that's the new stuff, man. lead by example, cobb. show us your initiative, show us how you intend to bring others into the Old School fold. are you trying to persuade or merely chuckle from your base station midway up the mountain? why are the efforts of your parents' old school generation beneath you now?
Toggle Commented Nov 16, 2007 on The Old School Revisited at Cobb
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I'm kind of intrigued by the questions posed in the middle there. But I'm noticing this thing were certain yanks think theirs is the only country on the planet worthy of habitation. All this rah-rah is weird. Like the G-7 (or G-8 or G-9 or whatever it's up to these days) doesn't exist, that the whole of the first world is entirely made up of The American Union. The tourist board ads are supposebly for the furriners, Cobb, not the locals.
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Sleep well. IBM just bought Cognos for 5B.
Toggle Commented Nov 12, 2007 on Eighty Five at Cobb
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I am pretty sure I know you better than you think I do. None of this comes as a surprise to me. I've been meaning to write up a profile of you and see how close to the bone I cut. Someday. Anyway, there's this classic self-help/bidniz book entitled, "The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People." You may've heard of it. There's one big principle in the book about carrying a kind of account with people. There's credits and debits, a concept I'm sure you in particular appreciate. I'm sure there's lots of bits about the book all over the web. Look up what creates credits and what makes for debits. Think about whether you're in a debit situation now (or have been for some time) and if what you continue to do, on balance, is actually helping anyone but yourself. The question is, can you do a whole lot better than what you're doing now?
Toggle Commented Oct 31, 2007 on The Community Service Resume at Cobb
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Well, I am afterall a blogosphere persona so, naturally, I never quite tire of my own voice. I don't aim to clothe you into anything you haven't already (gleefully) picked out yourself. What I do is hold a mirror up just so you are fully aware of how you look. And if you say you are, I sometimes, for lack of better amusement, ask you defend it. On you go.
Toggle Commented Oct 31, 2007 on Extending the Aphorism of Fishing at Cobb
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"I just debunked some political propaganda that mischaracterizes the state of the housing industry. Did you read it?" Oh ho, so you do care about your peeps. If this be the most effective way you can corral your talents and time, then you do you. Hey, mebbe next year you might find yet another person you can employ to deliver your mail. I'm sure a rival to FedEx oughta spring up out of those efforts.
Toggle Commented Oct 31, 2007 on Extending the Aphorism of Fishing at Cobb
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Cobb say:"Often times when arguing about what is the best strategy for uplift, people only examine the original aphorism of charity and education. This is short-sighted and ultimately only useful at the bottom of the economy. Bank robbers rob banks cuz "that's where the money is." In the same way, folk interested in Black uplift will situate themselves where the need is greatest. As you've noted, there are a number of ways to help -- so in which way are YOU helping, Cobb?
Toggle Commented Oct 31, 2007 on Extending the Aphorism of Fishing at Cobb
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EC, as yerns is the persona I most respect in all of blogland, I'm happy to roll with whatever you eventually decide. However, I do have some small concern over the number of sous chefs in the kitchen. They're both to take the stand but I think Cobb is comfortable enough with the idea that it is his mindset that's most on trial. I'm sure both of the combatants trust you to be fair if not wholly impartial (if only all courts were so run, eh?). I don't think we need to be overly concerned with impartiality. Any relevant biases held between you and Craig are known, not hidden. That's enough. As much as I respect D*, I'm not sure there's any more he can add to the moderation of this debate. On balance, I think there's more risk of muddification than clarification the more you add to the mix. Especially of "opposing" mindsets. I agree that the moderators should not be a sideshow to the main event. If you put a brake in the process by not allowing comments to go live immediately, you both will have sufficient time to review things before they go live and you can direct things, if necessary, before the combatants take their next tack. If the worst case is two hours between responses, I can't imagine most reasonable people would be upset with this. In fact, it gives the two Mikes more time to put together better responses. Much faster than than and y'all might as well just record a chat session between them, right? Perhaps the two of you (Ed and Craig) can pre-arrange shifts? p.s. Meatspace debates have time limits, here we can place word limits per response (i'm kinda thinkin 500 words at a time)?
Toggle Commented Oct 29, 2007 on Fish Vs Cobb: Anticipation at Cobb
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Wait, I take it back. Both sides trust E.C. and craig...why do we need more moderators? If it's more a matter of being able to control the stream of posts, perhaps a separate sub-blog can be created just for this event, with no live commenting. That is to say, no comment goes live unless reviewd by either moderator. This will help you both to keep control of the flow. Perhaps you could consider instituting specific time periods for each question (or arbitrators allowed to call impromptu 'recesses'), including eat/nap/sleep/family breaks. 48hrs is a good long time. Will be a classic.
Toggle Commented Oct 29, 2007 on Fish Vs Cobb: Anticipation at Cobb
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I'm sure D* would gag at being labled a conservative (wait, right?), but fwiw, i second either nomination.
Toggle Commented Oct 29, 2007 on Fish Vs Cobb: Anticipation at Cobb
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"I think it's important to say that this is not the only game in town." Y'know, your argument would be painfully weighty if it were the only game in town. If there are other more or less dignity-neutral (or, god forbid, dignity-affirming) games to play, then why debase yourself (and, by extension, the rest in your generally demeaned community) by setting up here. What difference would it make to slap that card on your forehead? Like that crosses an imaginary line? What, are you saying if you left the cards on the box that nobody watching would figure out the symbols are about you? There is nothing noble in this self-debasement. We know you're no Robin Hood of Sherwood, robbing from the wicked to give to the least.
Toggle Commented Oct 26, 2007 on The Sambo Card at Cobb
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p.s. should a sharp-eyed white person who professes to abhor racism play as well? why or why not?
Toggle Commented Oct 26, 2007 on The Sambo Card at Cobb
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My god. My god. You have no idea at all what sellout means, do you. None. It means some things are not worth your dignity. You are prancing around in your borrowed emperor's clothing, man. You just don't see it. Anyway, this is a ridiculous hypothetical cuz no way bedsheet spade dealer would even let you play (or god help you if you won).
Toggle Commented Oct 26, 2007 on The Sambo Card at Cobb
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" That's why Condy's the adviser and not the decider." I can't believe I said that. I'm so taking that back. EQ isn't easy. Having a high EQ (read up on all its aspects, it's not just about empathy) is still what largely separates the popular leaders from the followers. Someone with high IQ, low EQ is merely a useful resource for a person of high EQ.
Toggle Commented Oct 8, 2007 on Thinking About Me Thinking at Cobb
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"The thing that keeps me from getting invited to certain soirees .. I don't know. But what I do know is that I used to believe that the intelligent people inherited the earth." It's about EQ not IQ. That's why Condy's the adviser and not the decider. If you don't ever figure out when to subdue your ego and when to dial up your sensitivity, you'll forever be on the periphery of that circle you so fiend to join.
Toggle Commented Oct 8, 2007 on Thinking About Me Thinking at Cobb
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(every time i think i'm out...) Cobb, please define "special interest." you know i keeps it simple: any group that can afford a washington lobbyist. what say you? keep in mind pappy o'daniel's ole timey litmus test: "is you is or is you ain't mah constitchensee?" all the rest is a "special interest," right? do you think there exists a "special interest" group that the Republicans should respect, i mean other than Big Bidniz?
Toggle Commented Oct 3, 2007 on Another Long Way Moment at Cobb
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Ahh, we've already reached the all too familiar non-response phase of our little jig. Cobb, I leave you in care of your raving fanbase. Til next time.
Toggle Commented Oct 2, 2007 on Another Long Way Moment at Cobb
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