it does go on in many churches. i am glad that God is beginning to change my heart and my mind when it comes to A) merely keeping the programs running, keeping the customer happy and B) reorienting our lives around Christ and the missio dei. my/our only hope as you mentioned is to recalibrate around Jesus. it will require patience, in fact it may require a lifetime embedded in one local community for it to happen. as a pastor i find this call to deeper church exciting... thanks for the tozer quote. thanks for the challenge.