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Interesting debate(s). It seems to me that those embracing Calvinism are going to great lengths to differentiate Muslim "fatalism" from Christian/Calvinistic "fatalism" by injecting the fact that Muslims deny Jesus is God manifest in the flesh. OK, fine. However, but this doesn't make the distinction between the two because "God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass;[1] yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[2] nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established." "As God has appointed the elect unto glory, so has He, by the eternal and most free purpose of His will, foreordained all the means thereunto.[12] Wherefore, they who are elected, being fallen in Adam, are redeemed by Christ,..." " The rest of mankind God was pleased, according to the unsearchable counsel of His own will, whereby He extends or withholds mercy, as He pleases, for the glory of His sovereign power over His creatures, to pass by; and to ordain them to dishonor and wrath for their sin, to the praise of His glorious justice." " The doctrine of this high mystery of predestination... The last quote from the Westminster chapter 3 is where the fatalism is found. It's unfortunate that in the effort to "rescue God" from the appearance of impropriety, the Westminster 'Divines' made this stuff up and the obvious Biblical conflict (i.e., the plain English of God's desire to make salvation available to ALL VS 'Well, ALL doesn'tmean all, you know...) is look to good, so they cloak their unspoken fatalism in the term(s) "High Mystery" = "This is how it is...can't explain it because it's not in the Scriptures, but this is the best we have". To the person in the pew, if this were described to them at face value could do nothing but come to the conclusion that Calvinism is Christianized fatalism. Now I know many will say "you just don't understand" to that, I simply chalk it up to cognitive dissonance.
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SBC Bloggers aside, I would like to focus on the likes of JD Hall. I've read elsewhere of his treatment of Mr. Caner's son and have listened to more than a few podcasts...JD's got some anger issues, empathy issues and now he feels the need (or was he predestined to be an A$$?)to harass yet again. I've been a Calvinist for ten years and everyday, I find myself becoming less sympathetic of the theology because those who embrace this theology (at least actively in the public eye)run in packs and seem to be more interested in "defending God's 'freedom' " than ministering to people. So, what seems to have happened is preaching Christ is somewhat boring and has been replaced with "Christian A***oleism". Sorry for the creative expression, I'm frustrated with the whole Calvinist mindset.
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