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Patrick I am being completely serious. I have answered your comments in earlier postings. I am not repeating myself. Derrick Jensen is quoted by Lierre Keith in 'Deep Green Resistance' (2011) as describing wind-farms as "dead bat and dead birds farms". It is a mystery to me why the RSPB supports windfarms given the evidence but I understand they are beginning to change their minds. news.scotsman.com/inverness/RSPB-object-to-windfarm-plan.6727537.jp
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Isabelle Good post. Perhaps we should tell Patrick the difference between a housing estate and a wind energy farm.
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Patrick My view of you is based on the evidence that you have presented in this thread and the way you relate to other contributors.
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Patrick I honestly don't know about 250 groups across the country. Do you? You have your wind-industry PR sources. But I am more concerned by your prejudice and discriminatory attitudes. You claim you are knowledgeable about landscapes and wild-life. What do you think 840 turbines at 440foot plus and concrete bases the size of olympic swimming pools across Montgomeryshire is going to do to the micro-climate? I don't thing you know much about science at all.
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Patrick It is not the fact that you mention these groups comprise older people that worries me, it is the fact that you seem to think that their views are less valid than younger peoples views. If these groups are set in rural areas, I am not surprised that their membership is older. Younger people have had to leave the countryside for work. In my own city, we find that members of all organisations whether they be political, religious or cultural tend to be over 50. (Although looking at the pictures of the Mid-Wales demo, there were lots of young people and families there) I think younger people are just too busy working and bringing up families to spare the time. As for 'you and your kind' as you so kindly put it, I am a member of Greenpeace, work for Fairtrade and community issues in my town. I voted Labour until the Iraq war when I started voting Green. Thanks though for all those interesting links to wind industry sponsored sites.... You see it is true the wind energy business is trying to get young people to lobby on their behalf.
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Patrick I think your ageist and class-based stereotypes grossly distort the issues. It is an ugly argument in a democracy and if you were talking about any other group of people in this way, we would quite rightly be making complaints about you to the EHRC. Are you acting independently or on behalf of the wind industry?
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Paul You sound envious. Rural life can be difficult for many and I am surprised you are not aware of this. Patrick My problem with wind energy is that it is being fueled by a type of "gold rush": some landowners and corporations are making millions out of it. Also when I speak to scientists about this form of energy, they are all very sceptical about it. I certainly think it has its place in some areas and I don't worry so much about off-shore. There are some large off-shore developments near where I live. Patrick, you are right we are in a difficult position and there are no easy answers. We are going to have to live differently. Personally, I don't have a problem with this. I am in favour of renewables (and they seem to work well for small scale projects) but not at the expense of some of our most beautiful regions.
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I am genuinely shocked that a Member of Parliament can adopt such a tone when talking about people who are worried and scared about the future. These people are likely to be exploited by large multinationals chasing EU subsidies. I am sorry that you, Paul Flynn, are so disparaging about the people who opposed the developments in your area. As to your last point, "pretend global warming will not happen", a great many people in mid-Wales do not take this view. But they do quite rightly question the efficacy of windturbines. Even George Monbiot in his article "Support Windfarms?" in the Guardian this week refers to the turbines having a total load factor of 26%. This figure is pathetic and we know that last year, because the winds were lower, the figure was nearer 19%. Wind is a highly unreliable form of energy and it depends upon gas or coal powered stations to back them up. The wind tends to be low when the weather is cold just at the time when we need more power. We have no idea what will be the ecological impact of these supersize windfarms on the micro-climate. As for your references to Denmark, as I understand it, there are many people who are unhappy about what is happening but find it difficult to speak up. But I expect, Paul, you would think they were NIMBYS. Heavens above, people standing up for their rights, questioning the spin we are all fed by the PR people, whatever next... they might even want to influence government policy. I am so pleased you are not my MP. And one final point the Montgomeryshire against Pylons web-site is brilliant. Well done folks!
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