@hairshirthedonist- My geography classes are studying the former Soviet republics, and one of the issues we're looking at is nationalism. Several of my 9th graders have brought up the 'Southern redneck'* and asked if that is nationalism. I said no, that's just prejudice, but I am rethinking my answer. IMHO, Ethnic/cultural identity has to come first, and since this country doesn't have a single ethnic group/cultural background we dont have American nationalism. But after thinking about Southern culture/ethnicity, I think maybe that is nationalism - territory, culture, and ethnicity (of the majority culture). And it explains why some of those folks are so worked up over the current state of our demographics. thanks, Dr. Science *our school fight song is Dixie, and we used to wave the Confederate flag at pep rallies